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Mozilla/Firefox IFRAME reference problem

Zones: Mozilla Web Browser, JavaScript, Miscellaneous Web Development

I just cannot seem to find the Firefox/Mozilla equivalent for:
document.frames(sFrameName).document.forms('form1').elements(sElementName);

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Question Asked By: Silas2

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04.29.2008 at 01:23PM PDT, ID: 21465875

Rank: Genius

b0lsc0tt:

Silas2,

That is vbscript. For something that will work in Firefox (and even still work in IE) you want ...

document.frames[sFrameName].document.forms['form1'].elements[sElementName]

I assume sFrameName and sElementName are variables and form1 is the actual value in the name attribute in that form tag.

Make sure your form tag and inputs use the name attribute and not just ID. IE will treat the ID value as a name if one is missing but Firefox and others won't. The name attribute is needed with script like that.

Let me know if you have any questions or need more information.

b0lsc0tt

04.29.2008 at 03:39PM PDT, ID: 21466826

Silas2:

VB Script? - I've been running this in JavaScript in IE and its been working OK. Yes, I should have put:
document.frames(sFrameName).document.forms(sFormName).elements(sElementName);
(sFormName instead of "form1").
Re your point: "...IE will treat the ID value as a name if one is missing but Firefox and others won't. ..." I don't know how that fits in with the actual code which runs server-side in asp.net:
"<%=BigFileFrame.ClientID %>" instead of sFrameName. Should I change that for Modzilla?

04.29.2008 at 04:20PM PDT, ID: 21467050

Silas2:

Sorry, I've just seen your square brackets - is that the big difference?

04.29.2008 at 04:22PM PDT, ID: 21467061

Rank: Genius

b0lsc0tt:

>> I've been running this in JavaScript in IE <<

I'd be curious to see the rest of the script because IE is probably automatically treating it as clientside vbscript. Javascript doesn't use parentheses for the collections/arrays; you need square brackets (as in my example). Did you try making that change? Did it work in Firefox now and still work in IE? You can show me more of the code if you want but Javascript definitely will have a problem with the parentheses as you had them.

>> I don't know how that fits in with the actual code which runs server-side in asp.net: "<%=BigFileFrame.ClientID %>" instead of sFrameName. Should I change that for Modzilla? <<

Look at the html source. In other words in the browser choose View Source and look at what your server script sends to the browser.

What I meant is if the html in the browser looks like ... ("..." used below is just for other attributes in the tags)

<form id="form1" ... >
<input id="field1" ... >

... you will need to make it ...

<form id="form1" name="form1" ... >
<input id="field1" name="field1" ... >

Notice the name attributes. They can match what you have for the id. Depending on your doctype adding the name may make the html invalid. In that case you will need change the script a bit. I can help with that if needed. I hope that clears up what I said.

Let me know if you have a question or need more info.

bol

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04.29.2008 at 04:23PM PDT, ID: 21467066

Rank: Genius

b0lsc0tt:

>> is that the big difference? <<

Yes. That is the key. Now I understand your comment more. Sorry that wasn't obvious but those are the key to the problem and fix.

bol

04.30.2008 at 07:43AM PDT, ID: 21471146

Silas2:

Sorry for the delay, I spent all this time friggin with Firebug, and I've finally returned to Venkman. I've taken the JavaScript and HTML, which I am trying to debug, out of the aspx page and put it into an HTML. (I can include the IFRAME src file if you want).
This code runs in Internet Explorer but I am having problems with both Venkman and Firefox. See what you think...
(if it looks like VBScript that's because I'm a VB.old Programmer converting to the web, it is supposed to be JavaScript)

                       
         
           
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             <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
    <title>Test Venkman/Load Frame</title>
</head>
<body  onload="SetPageTimeStamp ();" >
<script type="text/javascript" >
function SetPageTimeStamp ()
{
//this code is triggered on body load
    var txtDataTimeStamp=GetLibraryFrame ().document.forms['form1'].elements['txtDataTimeStamp'];
}
function GetLibraryFrame ()
{
    if (BrowserAgnosticFrame ("ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_BigFileFrame").document.forms['form1']== null)
    {
       return BrowserAgnosticFrame ("ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_LibraryFrame");
    }
    else 
    {
        return BrowserAgnosticFrame ("ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_BigFileFrame");
    }
}
function  BrowserAgnosticFrame (sName )
{
    var sNavName = navigator.appName
    debugger;
    if (sNavName=="Microsoft Internet Explorer")
    {return document.frames(sName);}
     else 
    {return document.frames[sName];}//can't properly investigate this in Venkman
}     
 
</script>
 <iframe id="ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_LibraryFrame" style="display:block;" src="TempAspxFiles/CS102In350988192.html">If you can see this, your browser doesn't 
understand IFRAME. Contact support.
    </iframe>
        <iframe id="ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_BigFileFrame" style="display:none;">If you can see this, your browser doesn't 
understand IFRAME. Contact support.
    </iframe>
</body>
</html>
           
         

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04.30.2008 at 05:48PM PDT, ID: 21475737

Rank: Genius

b0lsc0tt:

I don't really understand your last comment or code. Did my recommendation fix your problem?

bol

05.01.2008 at 01:46AM PDT, ID: 21477177

Silas2:

Two points really, if you load this HTML file into Firefox and you hit the line which I have commented:
{return document.frames[sName];}//can't properly investigate this in Venkman
firstly, for some reason document.frames[sName] causes Firefox a problem, whereas Internet Explorer has no problem with it. Secondly, I'm having real trouble getting Venkman to show me the value of variables in break mode, I wonder if you could explain to me what I should be doing.
PS I've attached the file "CS102In350988192.html" which is embedded in the frame.(I changeed the extension to txt to fiit with his site resttriction)

CS102In350988192.txt (2 KB) (File Type Details)

src for ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_LibraryFrame

05.01.2008 at 01:50AM PDT, ID: 21477188

Silas2:

Sorry, would you rather I did it as a link?

05.01.2008 at 02:24AM PDT, ID: 21477299

Silas2:

try this
http://testsamples.pipeten.co.uk/htmlpage.htm

When I run it in Venkman, and investigate the value of document.frames[sName] using the console command line I get the "errorTypeError: document.frames has no properties",

05.01.2008 at 11:03AM PDT, ID: 21480979

Silas2:

Actually, when I trace the execution through my code it jumps into a JavaScript file called nsMicrosummarysSrvice.js?? When I googled this file name I can't seem to find any formal documentation on it?
It looks like some kind of open source Trojan, bet embedded into Venkman, somehow listening to events but my thread of execution just seems to peter out in the middle of it.

05.02.2008 at 05:58PM PDT, ID: 21490874

Silas2:

Sorry I didn't follow your instructions about the id/name issue. You were right, I resolved it now.

b0lsc0tt

05.02.2008 at 08:30PM PDT, ID: 21491217

I'm glad that did it. If they weren't clear from the start I am sorry but glad you gave it another chance. Thanks for the grade, the points and the fun question.

Regarding your previous comment at http:#21480979 I did see it and made a note to come back to this Q when I had time to look at it and respond. I don't use Venkman and, since that is a new issue, it is probably best to open a new question for it if you need help. That will make it easy for experts that can help to see the question. Let me know if you have a question about doing that. Good luck with it. :) I wanted to make sure you didn't think I just ignored your last posts.

bol

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