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Block Internet Radio

Asked by: adembo

I am interested in trying to block as many internet radio sites as I can. It seems users are able to keep one step in front as they always find a new site which I do not already have blocked. I am using a web blocker from my Watchguard firewall, but I cannot block streaming media as that will block alot of legit stuff, so I am trying to block all internet radio sites, or at least as many as I can find.

Does anyone know of a website or have a list of internet radio sites?

Thanks.

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by: ryjdawgPosted on 2007-02-15 at 05:41:51ID: 18539967

I quote from the following link: http://groups.google.ca/group/comp.dcom.sys.cisco/browse_thread/thread/ea0f1087599bb941/9e7af2a9a322964a%239e7af2a9a322964a

"There's another way:  make a policy, publicize the policy, severely
punish those who violate it.  Employees [l]istening to internet radio when
you don't want them to is not a technology problem.  It's a management
problem."

It's more trouble than it's worth.  Make a policy and enforce it consistently.  There must be a way to monitor bandwidth on each machine.  Simply investigate any and all suspicious machines until the employees get a clue and do the professional thing.

 

by: joshlamerrittPosted on 2007-02-15 at 05:47:32ID: 18540006

My suggestion would be to only open known ports on your outbound ACL on the WatchGuard.  Many of the sites use port 80, so you won't block them all, but you will block many of them.  WatchGuard actually has an article about this here:

http://www.watchguard.com/infocenter/editorial/135090.asp

If you don't want to close your outbound ACL completely and only open ports of known services, then you could block certain ports that are known to be used for audio streams.

First, check teh IANA site here:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers

Also, check here for some common ports not listed in IANA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers

Particularly, note that the following ports should be blocked: 8000, 8888

Finally, you can check here for a list of streaming audio sites to block individual sites:

http://world.std.com/~franl/media.html

You can also monitor the access logs on the WatchGaurd to see which sites employees are visiting.

Of course there is always the option of having someone in authority draft a memo telling the employees not to visit those sites anymore.  = )

 

by: ademboPosted on 2007-02-15 at 06:53:29ID: 18540470

Thanks for the info. Policies are already in place. Streaming radio is coming down on port 80. I have my network as secure as possible. The only ports I have open to the outside world are http, https, dns, smtp. We just have such a slow internet connection here that as soon as 1 person starts listening, the whole company is affected.

I want this to be in the background as a fall back for the users who feel they dont have to listen to the rules. I am not in a position where I am going to be a police man about monitoring the logs, I just want to stop it once and for all. The watchguard logs, if you have not seen them before, are nothing but IP's. It is very difficult and extremely time consuming to match up the sites with the site names. I know this is a lofty goal, but I will do the best I can at finding out.

Joshlamerritt, thanks for all the links provided and the info you gave. I will look in more detail at them.

Thanks again.

 

by: mtz1of4Posted on 2007-02-15 at 08:42:33ID: 18541589

I can't help with the actual question but here's an idea.  

Close your network a couple times completely and tell the employees (and the boss) it must have been a few people streaming radio or video issue. Clogged the network down so badly it crashed it.  If the boss won't discipline the lawbreakers maybe he/she will get you a faster internet connection.

 

by: joshlamerrittPosted on 2007-02-15 at 10:21:41ID: 18542549

You could also look at setting up a proxy server (SurfControl, etc.) to restrict outbound services.  I've setup quite a few SurfControl and N2H2 boxes to do this in School Districts and businesses.  Haven't played around with any opensource Proxies (Squid) so I don't know if it will work or not for what you are talking about, but SurfControl works great if you can afford it.  I have used SurfControl to completely block Instant Messaging, streaming audio and video, and you can block websites based on categories.

Just a thought.

 

by: ademboPosted on 2007-02-15 at 10:51:29ID: 18542791

The watchguard I am using is actually using surf control. I am fearful of blocking streaming audio, as I do have that choice on the watchguard, but that will block any and all streaming media, both good and bad. I cant have that. I may be just asking for something that is too difficult to do with the limitations that I am setting, but I like to have a chance to hear others opinions.

Thanks.

 

by: joshlamerrittPosted on 2007-02-15 at 10:55:46ID: 18542818

Have you considered blocking all streaming audio, then creating exceptions for the streaming audio that you want to allow instead of the other way around?  Seems that way would be much easier.  You could have employees request that access be allowed to certain sites, then create an exception on your WatchGuard based on whether or not the site is used for legitimate business purposes or not.

 

by: jsuttorPosted on 2007-02-15 at 12:07:10ID: 18543449

If you are using a packet filter for you HTTP traffic... try using a http proxy and set the proxy action to deny the content type "audio/*" which will deny all audio types... if you just want to deny windows media player, real player or any specific type of audio... just deny by the mime type in the http proxy.

 

by: mcrosslandPosted on 2007-02-19 at 16:45:51ID: 18567603

Here is what I do.
I use weblocker to block streaming audio.
I then created an HTTP "FILTER" which is port 80 wide open.
I then configured it FROM ANY TRUSTED   to  ONLY MY LEGIT STREAMING SITES.

This worked out Great!

 

by: ademboPosted on 2007-02-20 at 06:44:26ID: 18570742

mcrossland,

Thanks for that idea. Do you notice any other websites that have streaming media blocked? If someone say is watching a webninar or something?

 

by: mcrosslandPosted on 2007-02-20 at 06:52:53ID: 18570823

I have had to make acceptions on occasion but never for a live meeting or webinar.  Those seem to just work because it is not streaming media.  They are meetings where you are watching someone elses desktop and if any media is played, it is usually on the remote system.

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