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MPEG Layer-3 Audio Codec for MSACM

Asked by: gsazeides

HI,
      I have an avi file and it played ok on my pc. When I made it in dvd and played it on dvd player there was no sound. I dropped in gspot(which I don't know how to use) and it didn't give me any errors. I pressed the button in gspot that has number 1,2 and then 3 to play it and I see this info about the sound
FIL      File Description      MPEG Layer-3 Audio Codec for MSACM

I also read about a prog called nadub which i downloaded and used it to change the file but nothing.
How can I change the file so it plays sound on my dvd player and how do I know if its going to play??(not on the pc) before I burn it?. By converting the file to divx with divx converter it doesnt fix it. Is there another program?

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Answers

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2008-04-05 at 05:20:04ID: 21287872

Without looking at the file specifically I would either convert it using VDub or TMPGEnc both of which are free - to reformat the container file.  Using TMPGEnc to create an MPEG-1 file would be the most reliable but will take the longest time to re-encode.

 

by: MerijnBPosted on 2008-04-05 at 05:35:22ID: 21287906

try DVD Flick, an open source DVD authoring tool: http://www.dvdflick.net/
It works really simple, you can just 'add' your avi and it will make a good DVD out of it.

 

by: MeretePosted on 2008-04-05 at 06:03:30ID: 21287981

Q1- May I Ask what format you burnt to DVD Data disc or a true DVD?
Q2- What software you used to burn this avi to DVD as it should have re-authored and corrected it.
Q3 Are you using cheap DVD discs? Cheap DVD discs often fail miserably.
Burn at speed X4  no higher than x8 max.
Use Verbatim or good quality DVD-R
the reason I ask some software don't cut it.
Don't do the job right.

Here is a guide to Gspot
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/68/Gspot.aspx
Converting it to mpeg1 as suggested is the best way to go to re-author to DVD Vobs saves a lot fo work on your Burner software.
You can also use a very good simple tool to convert it to mpeg1, "Super"
then re-author it to DVD from there using your burning software.
Guides and download included
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER
There is noway to know if a burn will be successful but if you follow these steps you should have a very high success rate.

Good Luck
Merete

 

by: gsazeidesPosted on 2008-04-06 at 00:22:51ID: 21291040

I am making a data disc on a dvd and all files are .avi. I don't want to make dvds
I am using Nero Express 8.
The problem here is not the disc because I had cheap dvds and I run out of them and I bought expensive ones and they didn't work. I wasted a lot of money on new discs. The ones that only work on my burner perfectly are memorex dvd+r 16x. They seem to be the best for copying.
The problem here is only sound!! I can hear sound on computer but not on the dvd divx player. I don't want to convert them to dvd format. I need them to stay in avi format. Just some files (very rarely) don't have sound. I need sthg to convert the files to sthg else that would support sound on dvd divx player on tv.

 

by: gsazeidesPosted on 2008-04-06 at 01:06:46ID: 21291095

Gspot gives this sound info on several avis that play normally on my dvd player

48000    122 kb/s  monophonic
48000   128 kb/s tot, Joint video
44000   80  kb/s tot, Two Mono Channels
44100   64 kb/s  monophonic
48000   96  kb/s mono.....

it also gives sound info of avis that DON'T sound on my dvd player and they are

48000 97 kb/s Mono....
32000 68 kb/s tot, Joint Video Lame 3.9
32000  32 kb/s, Mono..

I guess these are not the end of these lists. How can I change these characteristics of these movies to the ones that sound? And how can I know that they will sound before I burn them on dvd?

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2008-04-06 at 02:34:57ID: 21291238

Unless you need the files in a standard format it would be quicker to find the audio codec you need to play the silent files instead.

You seem to be missing LAME MP3 at least.

A good clue to what to install is the left centre window in GSpot which usually shows the package used to encode the video file (above "ASCII JUNK")

You could add each codec that you find is missing or just blitz everything by installing a codec pack (like K-lite).  This is generally not recommended as the more codecs you install the bigger tha chance of conflicts on your system but it is likely to be a "quick fix" for your AVI sound problem.

The current K-lite installer can be found here:
http://www.free-codecs.com/K_lite_codec_pack_download.htm

 

by: MeretePosted on 2008-04-06 at 04:31:23ID: 21291446

Right well I think you have a similar problem to myself>>dvd divx player.<< I bought TWO Grundig Divx DVD players yeah two of them bevause I was so hell bent on having it to work because it supported data DVD  I burn my avi to DVD as data discs as well and still seldom does this Divx DVD player work so I gave up and hooked my PC to the TV instead.
If these play ok on your computer it's the divx player.

 

by: gsazeidesPosted on 2008-04-06 at 07:09:53ID: 21291796

Thanks Masqueraid sorry but do you mean that I need to install k-lite code on my dvd player?? Is this possible? I mean not on the computer because the computer plays the movies perfectly.

If I could convert the avi file in a way that the video stays the same and the audio changes to sthg that dvd players (I tried in many different models e.g. sony, philips etc) like e.g.
48000    122 kb/s  monophonic
48000   128 kb/s tot, Joint video
44000   80  kb/s tot, Two Mono Channels


 So I guess there is no direct solution on this expept from using the method I used to, years ago and the oe that Merete suggests. Connect the tv with my computer. And I just bought a new dvd player :(....and now I need to buy a portable computer too :) but I will not need any discs any more :). Merete if I remember right the quality of the picture is not good due to cables in connection with tv. What you did for that?

 

by: MASQUERAIDPosted on 2008-04-06 at 07:41:33ID: 21291895

gsazeides

No, that's my fault - I somehow missed the standalone DVD player reference completely (!)

Merete is spot on here.  The problem is either wrong format for playback on the standalone machine or your DVD player doesn't support recordable media fully.

If you have 3 or 4 hours (which is how long the encoding will take) - try the DVDFlick suggestion above which should produce a DVD format folder on your PC.  Open one of the VOB files in the Video_TS folder and check it plays OK on your PC (including sound!). Don't worry if the Audio_TS folder is empty as long as it plays OK.

Once you have that you can use your standard burning software to create a DVD data disk which as the Video and Audio folders in its root. Make certain the recording session on the disk is finalised so it can be read in any device.

As long as that is burnt onto a medium that your standalone player can cope with you should be able to watch (and listen) to it on your TV!

Ignore the K-lite stuff - you're right that's for solving problems on PCs

- - I think I might need some more sleep! :)

 

by: MeretePosted on 2008-04-06 at 17:54:00ID: 21293763

The quality of my Divx avi on my 68 CM TV is a good as any DVD but I guess that's a matter of opinion. It very good anyway. I can't really show you lol
On my TV I change the picture settings to ECO which produces a near DVD quality.
Quality on the TV depends on the vdieo card you use the cables need to be the best gold or brass only.
I have an Nvidia 6600GT
The media player you use helps have lots of ram proccesor speed.
I run mine mainly between VLC and media player classic with tiny screen on desktop and full screen on the secondary TV screen so I can do other things.
Laptops can also come in handy for this too. Have a separate hard drive for all your video.
I ran the s-video cable with an adapter and extender cable to video in> AVS2 DVD< channel on the TV.
Same with the audio it has only one audio cable so had to add an adapter with audio Left and right.
I also have a small switch box,
 added the audio out on the rear of the TV to switchbox and then ran audio cables from switchbox to AMP. Works a treat.

What I would do is go down to your local DVD store if there is one nearby and have good friendly service, find a DVD player that supports DATA DVD and ask if you can play your DVD on theirs to test it.

How many avi you burn to disc I find helps also use only the very best Verbatum DVD-R burn at X4 speeds only.
Put only 4 avi per DVD.

The source of your avi is also very important, mine are mainly my own DVD backed up as avi to save the constant handling of the discs since I buy my DVD online often times they are not my regeon either.

It's not expenisve to connect the computer to the TV.

Hope you had a good sleep :)

 

by: MerijnBPosted on 2008-04-07 at 00:01:22ID: 21294787

download this tool: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/index.htm
It's an open source media transcoder. It will need some experimenting, but works very well in general.

For video, select 'copy video'. For Audio, select one of the formats which works well on your divx player.
I suggest 44.1 kHz, 16 bit, joint stereo (or auto), 192 kb/s, which is one the most common.

This tool will then convert only the audio part of the avi's, but this is quite a lengthy process. Give it a shot and let me know please.

 

by: gsazeidesPosted on 2008-04-17 at 01:27:20ID: 21375159

Thank you all very much. Because i am really tired of all the process of writing to dvd discs, waiting and destroying them, and also fighting with the computer salesmen (they told me to dump my pc) i have connected my laptop with my television using S-video connected to scart on the television. It has 2 scarts. 1 i put for video and the other to computer. Now I am really happy :))). What runs on my computer screen I see it on the tv!! There was a small problem though. The colours were black and white on the television. To fix that I opened the scart and solder the 15th with the 20th pin and it worked!! I have an old square 33'' Tompson which was hard to find and buy nowdays.

 

by: MeretePosted on 2008-04-17 at 02:06:14ID: 21375322

wow cool  >>>To fix that I opened the scart and solder the 15th with the 20th pin and it worked!!<< clever you.
>>fighting with the computer salesmen (they told me to dump my pc)<< damn techies who do they think they are.
Well you showed them :)
the scaart cable isnt that where you would bring in the DVD player? Using the AVS2 on your TV?
I had a similar problem with no colour first time and found a small knob on the TV under the display that changed the colour.
I have a scaart cable for my DVD player, and  it responds on AVS2 on the TV.
I use the front rca for my PC.
Whats this>>I have an old square 33'' Tompson <<TV?
Well done though.
The video quality is fine dont you agree? Now hook your TV up to the amp lol.

Maybe one day you can upgrade the TV and have the front rca  video audio makes lfe simple for sure.
Great story too.
Thank you gsazeides very happy for you
Regards Merete

 

by: gsazeidesPosted on 2008-04-19 at 04:21:02ID: 21391954

Here are some pics of my tv and connections :). Yes I have an old 33'' Tomson TV which was hard to find and probably last in the market. I don't like wide screens :). There are 2 scart input on the tv where i connected one on pc and the other on dvd player. Second pic shows connections that are on the side of the tv but I am using a scart that connects everything together on the last pic. Yes quality is very
good despite that my cable for connecting the tv and pc is 22m long!
haha yes thats the next step i am thinking to take, as sound is not so loud, and connect tv or pc to my 25 y. old JVC stereo amplifier. Maybe I will need your advice there

Thank you 4 your help

   

 

by: MeretePosted on 2008-04-19 at 19:18:43ID: 21394784

Cool that makes it so easy lol.
What country are you in?
Eastern European Summer Time
Maybe better to use emails to carry on since this is finalised question.
Look in my profile.

What's connected to image IMGA0153.JPG (60 KB)   you can use that to connect your PC to the TV see it has Video / audio is that in or out lol.
But since you have it playing nicely good job.
The scaart cable looks the same as mine.

Use those audio onthe back of the TV if you like to add the the TV audio out to AMP  only if they are out though. Maybe only in since it's an old model.
grab a cable with matching red and white audio left and right and run to the JVC stereo amplifierline in.
Regards Merete

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