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How to burn show recorded using Windows Media Center (Vista Ultimate) to DVD, when file too large for DVD?

Asked by: sah18

I have recorded a tv special using Windows Media Center from my Vista Ultimate computer.  However, when I try using the Burn to DVD feature from within Windows Media Center, it says that the recording is too large to fit on a DVD (just over 2 hours, because i recorded a couple minutes before and after, just to be safe).   I tried allowing it to burn the DVD at a lower quality to "squeeze" it onto the dvd, but it turned out really back (audio out of sync with the video, etc), so I don't want to do that.  Is there another way to burn this to dvd -- perhaps half on one dvd and half on another --- or is there a way to trim off the few extra minutes before and after the recording, so that it will fit?  I also own Ulead Movie Factory, but it appears that it doesn't work with the Windows Media Center recorded format (dvr-ms).  Also, is it possible to record in a different format than dvr-ms, because then I could use Ulead software to make these edits?
Thanks for your suggestions!

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2008-02-16 at 12:37:05ID23168789
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by: LeeTutorPosted on 2008-02-16 at 16:55:06ID: 20912037

Since you have Vista Ultimate, you should have Windows Movie Maker on your computer.  You can import .wmv files into it, and then use its editing abilities to cut out any parts you can do without.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/26255f6c-daf5-4923-8559-be7b2399d7f91033.mspx
Windows Help and How-to:  Import video files, pictures, and audio into Windows Movie Maker

Microsoft's general web page on Windows Movie Maker (and there are a lot of other pages linked to it, or which you can find by doing a google search):

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/moviemaker.mspx
Windows Vista Features Explained:  Windows Movie Maker and Movie Maker HD

 

by: MeretePosted on 2008-02-16 at 17:13:43ID: 20912114

dvr-ms is really okay for DVD since it's format is mpeg2 DVD compliant. HD?
Is this Roxio?
Record in DV-AVI (best for video editing) or MPEG-2 (to go straight to DVD).
http://www.roxio.com/enu/solutions/roxiolabs/products/dvc/default.html

Reduce the actual capture video frame size. reducing audio bitrates also help,
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/howto/articles/capturingforhd.aspx
Media Center Alternatives
http://www.jakeludington.com/media_center_pc/

the dvr-ms files are nothing more than a proprietary MPEG2 with a metadata header that includes stuff like channel, time, station identifier, etc.
Editing it however is a pain for most people, I also have Ulead Video studio and it's not all that good, no good for  importing  dvr-ms is a bug and as yet they have not found a solution.
VideoReDo
http://www.videoredo.com/en/index.htm
VideoReDo  can open these shows. The latest version of Nero's (7.5...) Vision can also open the files.
In Nero Vision choose make movie drop your dvr-ms into the panel then the time line and edit out the extras export as. Burn to disc
Another to edit DVR-MS files Cyberlink PowerProducer Express
Create DVD
Import Video > select the DVR-MS file/s

DVR-MS file Conversion Requirements  
Before converting DVR-MS files, you need to make sure that your PC meets the following requirements:  
Requirements for Windows Versions that come with Media Center, and all Windows Vista PCs  
MPEG 2 Decoder: An MPEG 2 decoder allows you to play and work with DVR-MS files.  You can download a free MPEG 2 decoder from the following link:
http://www.deskshare.com/download/mpeg2decoder.exe
Converting DVR-MS Files Created by Media Center PCs
http://www.deskshare.com/Resources/articles/dmc_DVRMS.aspx
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Optional extras to experiement with
There is also Super to convert to mpeg
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER

avs4you has a complete package of free tools for editing video
http://www.avs4you.com/downloads.aspx?dl=no

Good Luck hope this has assisted you

 

by: LeeTutorPosted on 2008-02-18 at 05:07:15ID: 20919496

sah18, any feedback?

 

by: sah18Posted on 2008-02-18 at 05:32:16ID: 20919669

LeeTutor - your post is regarding .wmv file format, but my question was about the .dvr-ms format.

Merete - I don't really want to have to convert the file to a different format (it seems unnecessary).  I just want to be able to either cut out the beginning and ending of the extra video OR just split the file in 2 parts, so that it can be burned onto 2 DVDs, since it can't fit onto one.

 

by: sah18Posted on 2008-02-18 at 05:33:52ID: 20919679

At the moment, I'm thinking about using BeyondTV software instead (which I already own), because you can choose what video format to store the file in.

However, since Windows Media Center uses the .dvr-ms format, it seems that it should be something you can edit, but I don't know how.  I just would like to know how.

 

by: LeeTutorPosted on 2008-02-18 at 05:37:22ID: 20919707

That page also says that Windows Movie Maker can import dvr-ms.

 

by: MeretePosted on 2008-02-18 at 17:52:22ID: 20925113

Double jepardy
How to determin the amount to reduce.
When burning to DVD it is converting it to mpeg2 anyway. That is why the video changes size.
all I can offer is check the settings in your video capture PVR, I use winfast so it probably differs in settings but to capture and burn to disc at once you'll need to watch the length of capture time, it should automatically burn to disc when it reaches a certain size.
there is a setting  so it knows when to stop capturing and burn... of course DVD run at 4.7 gig so it would need to stop capturing at around 4 gig to allow the lead in lead out to be added.
otherwise capture to hard disk using a capture for 15 minutes, then it should stop and start again so you wont lose anything and the output will be in separate files.
Ulead Movie Factory is not all it cracks up to be I also have it.
 BeyondTV software instead  because you can choose what video format to store the file in<< is a good idea, changing the format of capture will solve it. Mpeg is suitable. But you still need to knwo the capture size.
Dealing with microsoft products pushes you to stick with their formats especially where DRM are concerned.
The Grief story using WM Center capture
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/27692.aspx

to edit out a section means re-authoring the video.
If you wish to stick with dvr-ms when editing your just asking for a head ache, convert it to mpeg then you have a better options for free tools for splicing and cutting off bits. Will also burn to DVD
Nero Vision is a great tool too, it can capoture
 create your own movie, edit them and probably edit out the extra bits without losing the quality
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/NeroVision_Express

AVS Video Tools is a fast, powerful but simple Dvr-ms converter tools.
How to convert Dvr-ms, burn Dvr-ms and edit dvr-ms?
http://www.dvd-tool.com/convert-dvr-ms.html

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