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Adobe Premiere 7 > Export high quality movie for Windows Media Player & Quicktime?

Asked by: t1shopper

I have a movie in Premiere with a native size of 640x480 and frame rate of 30.003 and I want to export two very high quality versions:

1. The first version should be able to be played on Windows (e.g. Windows Media Player).
2. The second should be played on a Macintosh (Quicktime).

The exported file size doesn't matter.  I've tried an awful lot of combinations and codecs with little luck.  Usually the resulting output is jittery, pixelated and blocky.

Suggestions?

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2009-09-13 at 19:16:31ID24728502
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Answers

 

by: munkPosted on 2009-09-14 at 00:45:39ID: 25323428

First of all make sure that you export a movie with a 2-pass encoding.

Second make sure that your Kbit/s is no less than 1600 for your resolution of 640x480

Your audio sample rate is also very low. Usually 44 or 48 KHz with a bitrate of 128Kbit/s gives good audio quality.

Your file will be much larger but this is the only way to obtain high quality video.

 

by: t1shopperPosted on 2009-09-14 at 07:05:53ID: 25325531

LOL.  I had everything maxed out, the files size should have been huge, but it wasn't!  I was doing double pass, H.264 and had everything tweaked.  But there was a bit more scroll down in the configuration screen that I was missing - if you scroll down one last inch in the advanced config menu, the very last setting has a "maximum bit rate."   On all preset options, it defaults to 192 Kbps.  Unbelievable.

Just a sec, rendering another copy here and we'll see how it looks...

 

by: t1shopperPosted on 2009-09-14 at 07:21:18ID: 25325708

The original AVI is shown below along with the output from Premiere using the 1024K LAN connection presets...  The output is pretty bad as you can see.  I'm trying again now..

 

by: t1shopperPosted on 2009-09-14 at 08:30:55ID: 25326480

Using the settings below, the resulting 2.2 MB *.m4v file was unplayable by VLAN and any other media player.

I simply cannot find an export option that makes a quality file that's playable by Windows Media Player.  What's up with this?  Did I time warp back to 1998?  It's 2009 isn't it?  Exporting video to play on a Windows PC should be easy shouldn't it?

 

by: t1shopperPosted on 2009-09-14 at 11:39:24ID: 25328084

Tried outputting as an AVI and still super blocky compared to original source.

 

by: t1shopperPosted on 2009-09-14 at 11:57:01ID: 25328228

Finally got a detail screen shot - the original source is 640x480 and the AVI output from Premiere is done at 720x480.  

 

by: munkPosted on 2009-09-15 at 00:57:28ID: 25332709

Here are the problems i can see to your approach.

1. You scale the file from 640x480 to 720x480. This will distort the file since you stretch it. Make the Frame dimensions fit your end size of 640x480
2. How come you want to use AVI now? Unless you encode AVI files with a codec like DIvx you will not get a good output. Stick with wmv - it will give you a good quality at a reasonable bitrate.
3. In your settings you still use a VBR 1-pass. Use the VBR 2-pass
4. Your output suffers from deinterlacing. what is your original input source? DV? If so your field order is wrong. It needs to be bottom field first. Since you are encoding for the PC you can do a deinterlace that will remove the unwanted lines you see in your screenshot003
5. 35Mbit bitrate is overkill. Between 3-10 Mbit is fine with wmv9
6. M4v will not play with H264 in windows media player. Mp4 h264 will play with quicktime
7. In 1998 it was way easier to encode. Less formats. Dont think that good quality comes easy. People have this kind of work for a living :)

 

by: t1shopperPosted on 2009-09-15 at 11:25:37ID: 25337728

1. Fixing the scaling fixed a lot of it.

2. I wanted to use AVI because I am under the impression it is lossless so I can use it again later should I want to re-edit it as well as it plays on Windows (if I can encode it right).

3. Yes, have switch to two-pass now that we've got it working.

4. Original source was pocket camera video.  Encoded as MJPG, frame rate 30. So not sure what the ideal deinterlace/field order settings are - the last run I did looked pretty good.  Screen shot attached.

5. Ok, thanks, I just don't want to lose quality, I'll go with 10Mbit.  I'm using codec Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile, WVC1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_Video)

6. Ah, thanks.  I didn't realize that Windows Media Player supported really only a few codecs.  The following list helped be pick: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899113

7.  LOL.  You're right.  My bad.  ;-)

 

by: t1shopperPosted on 2009-09-15 at 11:36:08ID: 25337833

See current quality below using below settings.  I see some pixelation in some places but it's much smoother now...

Anything else I could do better?

 

by: munkPosted on 2009-09-15 at 23:35:13ID: 25342509

Yo are doing really well now.

There are two things you can consider for future encoding improvement:

1. Use VBR instead of CBR - it will make the same quality but the output file will be much smaller. Good to keep in mind when making for the web.

2. The better the input file the better the output.

3. In think your settings for the audio can be bumped up a bit. The overall impression of the film will also include good audio.

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