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Printing Drafts in Outlook 2007 - Showing Date sent

We have users who frequently print draft emails from outlook 2007.

All of the header information is there. To:, From:, Date: Etc. However, when printing a draft email, there is no indication that it a draft on the printed page. In fact it actually says "Sent" right under the bold line after the persons name who is printing the message.

This is a problem because these particular users rely on the printed copies of these drafts. Without knowing or remembering that these items are not actually sent, or checking the original draft folder, there is no way to tell on the printed copy that the email is a draft.

Is there a way to change the behaviour in Outlook to include the word Draft or at least get rid of the word "Sent:" in the header of the draft email when printed to differentiate at a glance between printed draft emails, and Printed sent emails?
Any help that you can provide would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

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2009-11-04 at 07:09:10ID24871037
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by: DrUltimaPosted on 2009-11-04 at 07:26:36ID: 25740241

OntarioMedicalAssociatin,

I am not aware of any such setting in Outlook 2007 natively.    However, you may find an Expert here who can code the change for you.  I cannot speak on that with any authority.

An alternative is to use your printer drivers to accomplish your goal, though.  Most modern drivers will allow you to add watermarks, and all HP printers, for example, have "DRAFT" as a built-in watermark.  I know that is adding a couple of steps to your process, but it would help alleviate the problem until a more proper solution could be coded for you.

Cheers,

DrUltima

 

by: OntarioMedicalAssociatinPosted on 2009-11-04 at 08:45:57ID: 25741217

Thanks DrUltima,

I'll give it a day or two to see if anyone has any ideas. You may understand that users like automation and any extra clicking or steps generally causes resistance.

In office 2003, when you print a Draft email, there is no SENT: field on a printed draft. When you send the email and print the very same email the sent: field appears on a printout. This makes it easy to differentiate between the two.

I don't understand why Office 2007 has to attach the sent field on a draft, when it hasnt even been sent. It pulls the date of creation as the sent date and time on a draft.

 

by: DrUltimaPosted on 2009-11-04 at 08:53:36ID: 25741295

I don't know either.  Sometimes Microsoft seems to lose functionality on upgrades, but that is a very different topic of discussion.  One thing you might do administratively is set up a "Drafts" template on your print server...  That way your users can just click the appropriate template rather than changing the settings themselves each time they print.  I know that users want total automation.  I have written more than one really odd PowerShell script to address such requests.

 

by: BlueDevilFanPosted on 2009-11-04 at 08:55:53ID: 25741321

Hi, OntarioMedicalAssociatin.

What constitutes a draft?  If the message is showing Sent, then it's actually been sent somewhere.  I'd consider a draft to be a message that hasn't been sent.  Unset messages do not show a "sent" line.  That aside you can create a new print style that will clearly mark an item as draft.  Here's how.

1.  Click File > Page Setup > Define Print Styles
2.  Select Memo Style and click the Copy button
3.  Change the Style Name to something meaningful to your staff.  I reccommend "Draft Style".
4.  Click the Header/Footer tab.
5.  Increase the font size for Header.  
6.  In the center header box enter something like "*** DRAFT ***" (without the quotes).
7.  Click OK

Ensure that staff understand that they need to select "Draft Style" when printing drafts.

 

by: OntarioMedicalAssociatinPosted on 2009-11-04 at 09:23:40ID: 25741646

BlueDevilFan,

These are messages that are sitting in their drafts folder that have NOT been sent to anyone. Yet they still have a sent line when printed. Unless this is a unique problem to us, I have tested this on several machines here with the same results (All office 2007. Office 2003 does not add the sent field on unsent drafts.)

As an example:
I create a new email and save it. (Not sending it) It shows up in the drafts folder. I open the folder, and select it. Then File-> Print Preview.

I see the Sent line, even though the email was not sent. (Image Attached)
The same sent line appears on the printed page.

We are using exchange, so perhaps it was sent to the exchange server, if that is what you are suggesting, but it is not sent to the addressee on the email, and simply sitting saved in drafts.

The email in my image was created by me yesterday and it seems to have listed the created date and time. It is still in my drafts.

I can run the "draft style" option by them to see what they have to say about it.

Also, thank you DrUltima for your comments.

 

by: BlueDevilFanPosted on 2009-11-04 at 11:09:39ID: 25742729

I tested before posting by creating a message, saving it to Drafts, and then printing.  My print does not include the Sent line.  Here's what I see.  AIn my experience an item can't have a sent date unless it's actually been mailed.  It's easy to test.  Create a message, save it to Drafts, then print.

 

by: OntarioMedicalAssociatinPosted on 2009-11-04 at 12:24:21ID: 25743528

Yes, I did that in my test yesterday and just did it again. Still says sent.
Like I said... Any machine here with office 2003 does not show sent. Any machine here with office 2007 does show sent. It was not sent. The email goes nowhere. Just sits in drafts folder. Its been tested on multiple machines.

Just tested it again on 3 other machines by our other techs here. Same result.

Tried with cached exchange mode, and without. SMS deployed installs, and standalone straight from the CD installs. Windows XP/Vista and Windows 7.

Were using Exchange 2007 with Office 2007 enterprise. Not a retail copy. Not sure if that would make a difference.

 

by: apache09Posted on 2009-11-04 at 12:35:47ID: 25743619

 

by: OntarioMedicalAssociatinPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:36:09ID: 25744205

SP2 and all office updates and windows updates are up to date as of this post.

 

by: apache09Posted on 2009-11-04 at 14:05:32ID: 25744493

Hrm, something must be making it think that the email was actually sent....

If you select the Email in The Draft Folder
And you view it in your Reading pane on the right
Do you see a grey bar that says it has not been sent yet?
Or does the grey bar also say its been sent on a particular day?

Is this draft created from a form or template at all?

Might also check to see if cached Exchange Mode is on.
Perhaps its making Outlook think its actually been sent...
Check under Tools>Account Settings>Open Users Account Details
Under Exchange Server name, Untick Use cached Exchange Mode.

 

by: apache09Posted on 2009-11-04 at 14:06:36ID: 25744507

Might also try closing Outlook and reopening using
Start>Run>Outlook.exe /safe

see if the issue is the same here.

If it doesnt happen in safe mode, its likely there is an Add In causing this issue.

 

by: OntarioMedicalAssociatinPosted on 2009-11-05 at 06:08:29ID: 25749550

Hi Apache09,

The grey bar says: "This Message has not been sent" on all messages i've been testing.

AH! But an interesting thing just happened.

When I create a draft, and save it to drafts folder, but I don't close the message after I save it, sent does NOT show up when I print. However, when I close the email after I save it, then reopen it and try to print, sent DOES show up.

This is something I had not noticed before. So that means something about closing the email and reopening it is adding that tag.

Opening in safe mode did not change the behaviour.

 

by: OntarioMedicalAssociatinPosted on 2009-11-05 at 06:09:39ID: 25749571

Sorry I also forgot to add that the email messages we've been testing with were not created by a template, and are just standard messages.

 

by: OntarioMedicalAssociatinPosted on 2009-11-06 at 06:35:24ID: 31650013

Split up the points a bit since this is more of a workaround then an actual soloution. Extra points to the first person to mention the same workaround another person outlined later in the thread.

 

by: RCoTeamPosted on 2009-11-18 at 07:52:59ID: 25851005

Just wanted to add a comment to this call even though it has been closed (but only in my opinion with a workaround).  At my organization we have exactly the same problem as mentioned here.  All PC's fully up to date and this error in fact appeared after the recent record patch day.  One of those updates must have added this functionality as we are absolutely sure it wasn't there before.  As a law firm we rely on the date sent fields a lot and it has been confusing to hand a lawyer a draft email that now includes a sent date when the actual date is the date it was last saved.  The first question the lawyer asks is 'has this been sent'?

A fix would be much better than changing the way the users print draft emails and to be honest i can see now rationality in having this information in a draft email print.  I mean it is actually completely wrong, the email not having been sent at all.  A better fix would be a patch that changed the 'sent' field in the drafts folder to a 'saved' field to avoid confusion

 

by: StevenWells99Posted on 2010-04-28 at 21:52:17ID: 32342360

Did anyone actually find  a solution to this problem (apart from the accepted one?)

 

by: ElixirConsultingPosted on 2012-01-17 at 21:03:09ID: 37452206

I am also having this exact same issue with Outlook 2010, so clearly it hasn't been resolved even with a new release.

I also have this situation at a law firm, although I have noticed that logged in with my Outlook profile, the problem doesn't occur. I have checked versions and settings between my Outlook profile and the profile of the user having the problem, but can't seem to find any differences.

I was wondering if it was something to do with the Memo Style, but can't seem to find a way to modify, only create a slightly different version (as mentioned earlier).

Will keep digging and if I find anything, will post it up on here.

 

by: ElixirConsultingPosted on 2012-01-17 at 22:15:53ID: 37452402

Had a bit more of a look at the problem and discovered some interesting results.

When you look at the HTML source for the draft emails, the messags with a Sent Date have some extra code embedded. I'll have to copy type this, so I'll try to get it right...

<link rel=Edit-Time-Data href="cid:editdata.mso"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><! [endif]-->

The key part here I believe is the rel=Edit-Time-Data, but I have no idea where this is coming from and why it is different between the two PCs.

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