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Excel #VALUE! error

Asked by: alsupj

Problem:  Excel 2000, gives #VALUE!  error message, points to antecedant, but does not tell me how to change antecedant to remove the error.  Using Windows XP Home Edition, desktop with Pentium 4 1400MHz,512MB ram.  
     Numerical values, $xxx.xx, now in spreadsheet were originally copied from an online bank statement, Union Bank of California.  However, these "values" don't allow themselves to be acted upon as numbers:  no multiplication or addition works on them.  If I copy them from one column to another using "paste special, values", they still act like something else (not text, not numbers).  Seemingly, I cannot convert these otherwise good-looking entries into real numbers.  How can I do this?

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2007-03-29 at 20:57:31ID22482079
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by: zorvekPosted on 2007-03-29 at 21:02:25ID: 18821504

Sometimes numbers, dates, and times can be entered into worksheet as text values which prevents them from being formatted and sorted. This frequently happens when data is imported from an external source such as a database. To convert such values to real numbers, dates, and/or times, select any unused empty cell and choose the Edit->Copy menu command. Select the cells containing the text version of the numbers or dates to be converted. Choose the menu command Edit->Paste Special. Select the Values radio button in the Paste section, the Add radio button in the Operation section, and click OK. If any dates show as numbers then select those cells and choose the menu command Format->Cells, navigate to the Number tab, select Date in left list and the desired date format from the right list. Click OK.

When importing data from external sources the values can contain non-breaking space characters (character code 160) which is hard to remove and causes numeric values and dates to be interpreted as text.

To find and replace instances of the non-breaking space character, select the cells to be cleaned and press CTRL+H to open the Replace dialog. Click in the "Find what" text entry field and clear any text (press CTRL+LEFT, press CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT, and press DELETE).  While holding the ALT key down enter 0160 on the numeric keypad. Click in the "Replace with" text entry field and clear any text (press CTRL+LEFT, press CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT, and press DELETE). Click the "Replace All" command button.

Note: If using a laptop put the keyboard into number lock mode (by pressing the "Num Lk" key) and enter the numbers using the numeric keypad by pressing FN+ALT+digit where digit is any of the keys M=0, J=1, K=2, L=3, U=4, I=5, O=6, 7=7, 8=8, or 9=9.

Kevin

 

by: byundtPosted on 2007-03-29 at 21:05:29ID: 18821508

Just on a hunch, do your "numbers" appear to have blank spaces either before or after them? If so, those blank spaces may be ASCII 160 characters--which will definitely cause a #VALUE! error when you try to do math.

To get rid of them:
=SUBSTITUTE(A1, CHAR(160),"")
You can then do the trick with copying a blank and then Edit...Paste Special...Add to convert a block of cells from text to numbers en masse.

Or you can use the Edit...Replace menu item. To create the ASCII 160 character for the Find field, hold the ALT key down and enter 0160 using the numeric keypad. This trick won't work with the numbers above QWERTY!

 

by: stochasticPosted on 2007-03-29 at 22:16:45ID: 18821691

alsupj,

To help us diagnose the problem could you please post the ascii codes of each character in
your cell which looks like a number but doesn't behave like one?

To get  the ascii values, use the function (assuming your number is in cell A1)

=CODE(MID(A1,1,1))  for the first character
=CODE(MID(A1,2,1)) for the second character and so on.
Please give the codes of all the characters in the number. You can see how many characters
there are, by using the formula =LEN(A1)

I feel sure once we know what's in there, we will be able to suggest a solution.

- stochastic

 

by: alsupjPosted on 2007-03-29 at 23:00:19ID: 18821781

The first 2 solutions (zorvek,byundt) both appeared to identify the problem:  char(160).
However, their common solution, namely, to use Find/Replace to get rid of this offending character, didn't work for me.  Only byundt's alternative strategy, "black magic" at that, which was to use the substitute command followed by copy/adding a "blank" to the cell(s), worked for me.

 

by: alsupjPosted on 2007-03-29 at 23:06:23ID: 18821798

Hmmn.  Upon closer reading of sorvek, he also described the "black magic" solution.  However, I got lost reading it the first time, and went for the less verbose version by byundt.  Sorry about that.

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