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non-recurrent loan balance formula needed

Asked by: JIEXA

I'm stuck with trying to find out what is the annuity scheduled balance of any period *without recurrent formula* that uses previous payment data. (Yes, I know that this way it won't be exact, but it's OK with me.)

The data is:
Annual interest rate is R, and it's relative part (R/12) is used every month for a annuity payment. The loan was taken for S dollars for N*12 months.
The loan was payed M (which is less than N) periods.
What is the balance B (the one that could be payed to the bank without a fee or fine, if agreed at advance).

I'd like to get the answer in MS Excel or Google spreadsheet functions' terms, if it's possible.

P.S. The question is a part of comparison of private car leasing deal vs getting a bank load and selling the car after certain period.

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2009-08-21 at 10:37:00ID24672079
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Answers

 

by: Michael2009Posted on 2009-08-21 at 11:57:22ID: 25154729

Let's say payments are figured in before interest is calculated.
So for example, on the first month, we take the payment off the principal, then we calculate interest, and the result is the new balance. Let's call the monthly payment P.
In this case, the recursive formula is (bear with me, as subscripts are hard to write here):
B(n+1) = (Bn-P)*(1+R/12)
In other words, this month's balance is last month's minus the payment, times interest.
If this is the case, the formula for the balance after M months is:
(S-P)*(1+R/12)^M - P* [ (1+R/12)^M - (1+R/12) ] / (R/12)
I'm not using the variable N which you gave, because that needs to be used to figure the payment P. The way you do this depends on the bank and/or the person paying.

In Excel terms, simply replace all the letter variables in the equation with references to the cells that contain the values you need. Also, the square brackets need to be changed to parentheses.

So it would be something like:
(S-P)*(1+R/12)^M-P*((1+R/12)^M-(1+R/12))/(R/12)

 

by: Michael2009Posted on 2009-08-21 at 12:02:12ID: 25154780

I should mention that I got to this result by looking at Bn+1, Bn+2, and Bn+3, and recognizing the pattern. Once I figured the pattern, I put it into sigma notation, and in this case, used geometric series summation to get the result (see summation on Wikipedia).

 

by: JIEXAPosted on 2009-08-21 at 23:45:41ID: 25157631

The formula: B(n+1) = (B(n)-P)*(1+R/12)
is wrong, because P here is not constant, it should be the principal part of the annuity payment.

I've found an example in the net.
It seems that the balance value I need is: B(m) = FV(R/12, m, P, S)
where P is annuity payment (including principal and interest) and is: P = PMT(R/12, N, S).

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    comparing recurrent formula to FV() for counting intermediate balance

 

by: JIEXAPosted on 2009-08-28 at 11:29:49ID: 31621863

The advice to look at the per-payment is good, but the formula given was wrong, and I've found the correct one myself.

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