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SolidWorks vs. Inventor

Asked by: kgerb

I'm looking for some opinions on which is a better CAD package in general?  Which one is more accepted nationally?  Which one is easier to use?  Which one offers more opportunity for support?  Is one better at something than the other?  Which one is a better value for the money?  For which one is the learning curve smaller?  Does the hugeness and legacy of AutCAD help Inventor at all?

Thanks,
Kyle

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by: meintsiPosted on 2004-12-07 at 07:02:52ID: 12764404

Boy is this a loaded quesstion. But since no one else has responded I'll put in my $.02.

I've used SolidWorks for the last four years and would really, really hate to have to use another CAD program.  I have had some 'experience with' /'exposure to' CADKey, ProE, AUTOCAD and SoildEdge and only SolidEdge comes close to the intuitiveness when working with solids.  ProE is way over priced unless you are paying even more for the addin packages whose computing power far distances itself from the other packages.  But mnay third party companies are closing this gap for the other Mid-Level CAD programs.

Weak areas in SoildWorks are still in the drawing creation and surface modeling areas, but 2005 has made significant gains in these areas.

In response to one of your other questions, 10 to 15 years ago, the CAD program of choice seemed to be region-specific. That is no longer the case.  And with the multitudes of translators between the programs, the choice of the CAD program a company chooses has become down to what is the cost of the software vs how does it function for my specific needs.  A sheet metal shop has drastically different requirements when compared to an aircraft company developing wing-shapes.

 

by: thechandlerPosted on 2004-12-07 at 13:26:50ID: 12768469

AutoDesk came out with inventor to target the ProE and Solid works products.  Up until Inventor came out, AutoDesk did not have a high powered 3d modeling platform - their best effort was Mechanical Desktop - which was a good go-between for small to medium sized 3d models, but fell FAR short for anything of complexity.  I have used both AutoCad 2004, Inventor, Mechanical Desktop, and a tad of ProE.

Inventor is very close to ProE with some major improvements in the ease of use area.

As said above, there are excellent translation programs available between all of the major platforms, something like Rhinoceros works great for us... anyway.

My opinion would be that Inventor would have the shortest learning curve and greatest support base - mainly because the support base for inventor is growing rapidly now that people are wanting to upgrade CAD programs.  The past 3 years have been slow for many industries, and things like CAD software were compromised.

If you have not tried inventor out, contact your local reseller and schedule a demo - that is a great way to see the program first hand, see the capabilities, and decide if it is right for you.  I assume you could do the same thing with solid works or pro-e.  

One more thing - AutoDesk is working on database compatibility for inventor.  when that happens, A WHOLE NEW WORLD will open up for cad programs and users - the ability to pull data from a database!

 

by: kgerbPosted on 2004-12-07 at 14:01:29ID: 12768775

thechandler,
You mentioned translation in one of your comments.  How do you feel about Inventor's ability to translate MDT files compared to SolidWorks.  I have heard rumors that even though Inventor is an Autodesk product, SolidWorks will translate files better from MDT.  Do you have any experience that speaks to this issue?  meintsi, please feel free to reply as well.

 

by: meintsiPosted on 2004-12-07 at 14:02:13ID: 12768778

That world is already open in SolidWorks.

Are you saying that Invertor cannot pull data from Access or Excel? or create its own databases?

 

by: meintsiPosted on 2004-12-07 at 14:06:49ID: 12768819

from the SW2005 help files...................................

Mechanical Desktop Files
The MDT translator imports part and assembly information from Mechanical Desktopâ (MDT) files as SolidWorks part or assembly documents. You must have MDT installed on your desktop, but it does not have to be running, to use the MDT translator.

The MDT translator is integrated into the DXF/DWG Import Wizard in the SolidWorks software. The wizard is always available when you select DXF (*.dxf) or DWG (*.dwg) under Files of type in the Open dialog box.

 If you import large assemblies from MDT, SolidWorks recommends you do the following:

Start Mechanical Desktop and open the MDT file inside the MDT application before you import the file into the SolidWorks application.

Set the MDT temporary files path to a drive where you have sufficient space (1GB minimum).

Increase the paging file size to appropriate limits. This is relevant mainly for low configuration systems.

MDT files can contain a combination of part, assembly, and drawing files. The MDT translator provides different conversion options, depending upon the contents of the MDT file. The MDT translator supports import of MDT assembly relations.

The MDT translator supports the following items during import:

Large MDT assembly files, in excess of 130MB in size, depending on the complexity of the data.

All types of mates, including point-to-point and line-to-line mates

MDT combined features, which are sometimes referred to as toolbodies

MDT tapped hole features (cosmetic thread annotation)

MDT design tables (Design Variable Tables - Global Variable Sheets)

MDT Work Features (Work Planes, Work Axes, and Work Points)

MDT pattern features, which creates multiple disjoint bodies

 If you have been using AutoCAD on your computer, open Mechanical Desktop before opening an MDT file in SolidWorks so SolidWorks recognizes the file as an MDT file and not an AutoCAD file.

Version Information
The MDT translator supports MDT 4.0 or higher.

 

by: kgerbPosted on 2004-12-07 at 14:11:49ID: 12768858

meintsi,
>the CAD program a company chooses has become down to what is the cost of the software vs how does it function for my specific needs.

Can you think of any fields where one of these packages would suit a companies needs better than the other?

 

by: thechandlerPosted on 2004-12-07 at 14:12:53ID: 12768866

kgerb - I do not have experience in SolidWorks, but I can say that taking MTD files into Inventor has worked fine in every application I used it for.  Please note though, that these were relatively simple models - Light Emitting Diodes to be exact.

meintsi - AutoDesk does have support to pull information from access / database applications; however, it does not work super great.  For example, i want to be able to pull data from a database into a block - which is very difficult to do with the current technologies - and is also poorly supported with help / documentation / etc.

it can be done, but its pretty darn hard to do - thus, i "claim" that the support does not exist.. but in reality it does to a degree.

 

by: thechandlerPosted on 2004-12-07 at 14:14:22ID: 12768871

kgerb - what exactally are your needs?  

 

by: kgerbPosted on 2004-12-07 at 14:22:36ID: 12768960

I work for a major crane company and we are in the process of a software switch or upgrade.  We have approx 30,000 legacy files in MDT and about that many in 2D AutoCAD mechanical.  The two main programs we are looking at are SolidWorks and Inventor.  There are plenty of political issues that are going to play into the decision that is made but putting all those aside, I am just curious as to what others think about the two programs.  

 

by: kgerbPosted on 2004-12-07 at 14:28:30ID: 12769000

The vast majority of the parts that we will be making are very simple.  We do a little bending but for the most part everything is just different shapes cut out of steel.  We will however, be creating fairly large assemblies.  Possibly on the order of 5 - 6 thousand pieces.  We also a fairly stout FEA package.  With what you now know, do you have any comments on how each package will suit our needs?

 

by: thechandlerPosted on 2004-12-08 at 10:14:40ID: 12775964

Wow.  With a project and responsibility that large, the only way I would make the decision for sure is to try out both systems extensively.  I do know that MDT to inventor works just fine.   meintsi can probably comment on the solid works part of that equation.

From my experience with MDT, i would think that an assembly on the order of 5-6k pcs would crash anything! lol.  that is pretty intence.

 

by: kgerbPosted on 2004-12-08 at 18:42:54ID: 12779789

Ok, enough posts.  I can tell you both are getting weary of this discussion.  Thank you for your expertise.  It is very much appreciated.

 

by: meintsiPosted on 2004-12-10 at 11:05:52ID: 12795284

Sorry, been out a while...

We also use ALGOR for FEA which is fully integrated within SolidWorks.  Drag-n-dropping models and/or assemblies into Algor or opening ALGOR within SW works equally as well, if you get used to the toolbar changes. But the automeshing feature of ALgor yields limited results, but an experienced user can easily fix the meshing patterns and ambiguities.

FYI -
SolidWorks CAN handle assemblies as large as you are describing. (As long as your PC will too.) It just has "some sort of bug" in that it is limited to approximately 300 top-level mates. Performance starts to take a drastic hit and SW becomes a bit unstable and MAY crash to desktop when this limit is surpassed.

Considering that it can take up to three mates to fully constrain a piece, this limitation seems severe, but can easily overcome be creating a multitude of subassemblies. Each subassembly can handle an addditional 300 mates so starting a new assembly with 3-300 mate sub-assemblies reduces the number of top level mates down to between 4 and 6.

I would definitly follow thechandler's advice and test-drive any program you are considering a lengthy period of time.  You can ask any VAR test driving a CAD program almost any question and will always get a response that you want to hear.  Always trust seeing things first-hand (and I am referring to hands-on) using your models and work, not on their CANNED presentations.

Good Luck...

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