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Illustrator darkens color and acts differently from PS when applying same cmyk

Asked by: luefher

I'm working with AI, and have  a background (rect) layer, a rounded rectangle layer, and a layer with some text over. I'm trying to make the text a specific cmyk, but AI seems to always darken it... If I select the text shape in the [top] layer, then double-click the color box on the toolbox, and select one from the color picker, everything is fine, but if I try to enter a custom cmyk, it doesn't correspond to what i've chosen, it darkens it... any suggestions? i'm sure it's something simple...

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2008-09-23 at 19:10:10ID23757196
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color, cmyk, overlay

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Adobe Photoshop

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by: MINDSUPERBPosted on 2008-09-24 at 00:13:43ID: 22557462

luefher,

You may check that your document colour mode is on CMYK (File>Document colour mode>CMYK). By concept, even if you change your colour tool tab from RGB to CMYK, Illustrator will still convert it back to RGB unless your document mode is on CMYK.

Let me know if it doesnt fix the issue.

Ed

 

by: captainreissPosted on 2008-09-24 at 02:45:01ID: 22558091

Hi

looking at it with MINDSUPERB's comment in mind but from the other direction.

If you pick from a RGB range like your colour picker shows AND your document is in CMYK mode, Illustrator will adjust your colours to CMYK, which usually looks darker and/or duller.

That is normal. You can check the behavior by looking at the colour sliders. If they show CMYK values at xx.xx in fractions rather than full intergers than you had RGB=>CMYK converted.

if you design for print you need to adjust theseto corresponding CMYK values as the conversion usually over-inks, specifying too much ink to be applied, which your printer will reject.

If you only design for on screen use, make sure your document settings are RGB only.

hth
capt.

 

by: luefherPosted on 2008-09-25 at 18:48:57ID: 22575803

MINDSUPURB: yes, the document is in cmyk, but see below...

captainreiss: ok, this seems to be the problem, then - they cmyk does show values in xx.xx format. i usually prefer to work with rgb in photoshop and cmyk in illustrator (in case i'll need it for print). i saved a copy in rgb and that seems to work. however, is there a way to have illustrator not convert like that? i just took a rgb color from the website and entered it for the text color...

 

by: captainreissPosted on 2008-09-26 at 01:46:45ID: 22577653

Hi

first set the document color mode to RGB from the File menu. Then set the proofing mode in the View menu to Windows or Mac RGB (depending what you work on).

From the Edit menu you can change your working profiles and warnings if you have conflicts between colour space and opened files. You probably don't need to change this but it is good to know where it is.

You can pick the RGB sliders from the Options on the Color pallet.

But you may have to re-apply all colours after converting an existing CMYK doc to RGB to get the proper 'sparkle' back.

If you want to print its best to keep a copy in CMYK, which you can then adjust accordingly.

hth
capt.

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