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Flash Named Anchors and Framesets In IE

Asked by: koozilla

I have created a Flash file that uses named anchors in it's navigation.  The movie functions correctly outside of a frameset, but as soon as I try to view the movie inside a frameset, every navigation option causes the movie to reload and I end up back at frame 1.

This doesn't seem to be a problem when I view the frameset in Netscape 7 but in Internet Explorer it resets everytime.

Any ideas on what is going on and more importantly how to fix it?

Thanks in advance,
CK

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2005-10-05 at 10:22:10ID21584872
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Answers

 

by: koozillaPosted on 2005-10-05 at 10:45:01ID: 15024002

here's the code that i have in the frameset:
<frameset rows="83,*" cols="*" framespacing="0" frameborder="NO" border="0">
  <frame src="header.htm" name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" noresize >
  <frame src="/myPage.asp" scrolling="NO" name="mainFrame">
</frameset>

in the flash code, i have:

on (release) {
            gotoAndStop("anchor1");
}

from what i can see, the biggest problem is that the frameset just says, "index.html" on the address bar (for ALL pages at ALL times) and, hence, doesn't reference the anchor tag in the address bar in flash... however, it works correctly when putting it into a regular HTML page, with no frameset.

Question #2 - (if we can get Q #1 fixed) is there a way that is non-sequential to control the "back" button when doing this?  Ex. i have 5 named anchors and if i choose the 5th anchor (first), then hit back, it'll run thru the remaining 4 anchors....

 

by: dutchfoxerPosted on 2005-10-05 at 12:47:59ID: 15025020

So in flash you have the following actionscript on a button:
on (release) {
   getURL("pagename.htm#anchor1","targetname");
}

Am I correct? This causes a known problem with flash.

Macromedia has this to say about it: "Named anchors will work correctly if the SWF is in the same frame as the anchor."
Macromedia also writes: "One possible workaround is to call JavaScript functions using the getURL action."

See the complete technote with the workaround in detail here:
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14339


Another workaround that you can try is this:
on (release) {
      getURL("pagename.htm"+unescape("%23")+"anchor1", "targetname");
}
This only works online! Offline it does nothing. Possibly the reloading problem still occurs with this solution. Javascript would be a better one.


 

by: koozillaPosted on 2005-10-05 at 13:37:03ID: 15025381

I am trying to avoid the getURL actionscript if at all possible.  I want the Flash file to behave like it did when the frames were just named rather than made into Named Anchors.   I would still like to use the button script:

on (release) {
            gotoAndStop("anchor1");
}

This works fine outside of the frameset and even works fine on Mozilla and Netscape 7 inside the frameset.  But ever since the frames went from "named" to "anchors" IE causes the movie to reload and I end up back at frame 1 when veiwed inside the frameset.

 

by: dutchfoxerPosted on 2005-10-05 at 17:23:55ID: 15027149

Hold on. So you have a SWF file inside "header.htm" is asume? Is the flash in the header the navigation of the website?

And you have, in your Flash movie, a main-timeline with keyframes on it. And for example on keyframe nr 10 you have a 'Label' which is called "anchor1". Right?

And for example on keyframe nr 22 you have again another 'Label' which is called "anchor2".

So instead of saying:    gotoAndStop(10);
you say: gotoAndStop("anchor1");
right? So when you click the button, the Flash movie jumps to Keyframe 10 which is labeled "anchor1".

If the above is right, and there is no addition action-script on keyframe 10 / "anchor1"..... then nothing should happen with the HTML itself. The flash-movie will show a different graphic / photo / buttons / etc. and the HTML stays the same.


If the above is totally incorrect, then I am completely not getting it and I apologize. In this case, could you put the Flash-thingy and the Frames-index online somewhere so I can see what you mean?

 

by: sam85281Posted on 2005-10-05 at 17:51:22ID: 15027270

That's not what anchors are for.

Anchors are for browser induced navigation (back/forward buttons - html anchors, etc) not for internal navigation.

You just need to go to all your anchors and in the dropdown under where you put the label, change it from anchor to name and it will work fine.

-Sam

 

by: koozillaPosted on 2005-10-05 at 18:10:51ID: 15027359

dutchfoxer:  you are exactly right except the swf is in the myPage.asp frame rather than the header.  Other than that, I couldn't have described the timeline and button situation better myself.  The flash file is not the main navigation for the website.  It is content.  I did try a standard html file (instead of .asp) but that didn't work either.

If you would like to see an example, please go to:

http://www.acousticgraphics.com/frameset_test.htm

Be sure to check it out on Mozilla and Netscape 8 to see what it is supposed to do.  But even then the back button on the browser doesn't behave exactly how I would like it to.  If you would like to see EXACTLY what I want the file to do, check out the non-frameset html file at:

http://www.acousticgraphics.com/anchortest.html

sam85281: While it is true that once I change the frames from anchors to names the file works like it is supposed to, the client has asked that the browser back button be used to navigate to the previous frame position.  

In other instances on the web site I will be using the anchors to drop the user into specific parts of the timeline based on a choice from a html type navigation. So the anchors are necessary in that regard too.  

I can get all of this to work fine outside of the frameset, but unfortunately, the frameset is also quite necessary.


Thank you both for your attention
-CK

 

by: dutchfoxerPosted on 2005-10-06 at 01:10:24ID: 15028697

A big advantage of using named anchors is the possibility of deeplinking:

www.domainname.com/flashfiles/#anchor3

But with frames this advantage is gone out of the window.

To solve this, you could use an IFRAME instead of frames. See a good example here:
http://www.noscope.com/installments/2004/11/#2

I think the IFRAME also solves the frame-problem with the named anchors. As you can see in the above example, no problems with Explorer.

The 'noscope' also has a big tutorial-alike page about these named anchors, including some references to other sites containing scripts for the Back-button issue.
http://www.noscope.com/journal/2004/04/named_anchors

See also 5. References with the links to backbutton solutions


Finally, a simple solution you could try is to add actionscript to each of your anchors. Very simple actionscript:
stop();
So when jumping to keyframe 10, there will be actionscript telling the flash movie to stop there.

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