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05.07.2008 at 10:25AM PDT, ID: 23383572 | Points: 500
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Set Zoom to 100% for Acrobat Output files
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Please reply with how to edit a Pdf in Adobe Acrobat and have the resulting PDF, when opened with the Adobe Reader V 8 on ANOTHER PC, have a 100% zoom setting at the top. NOTE: The file to be edited, the input to Adobe Acrobat, has a 100% zoom factor at the top when opened in Adobe Reader V 8.

Note: I do not know the version of Adobe Acrobat; it is being run by someone else. Regarding just resetting the zoom factor in the Reader to 100% after opening the edited PDF, see my comments below; that is not the correct answer to this question.,

BACKGROUND: I emailed a pdf to someone to make a SLIGHT text edit with Acrobat, a minor text edit, and he returned it to me with the edit made exactly the way I had requested. However, I immediately noticed that when I opened it with Adobe Reader 8, it was displayed much bigger and had a 127% zoom factor at the top.

TO GET TO THE POINT: This is a document of great importance to the future of my OWN business. Upon carefully comparing the edited document AFTER MANUALLY CHANGING THE ZOOM FACTOR IN ADOBE READER TO 100%, I found it had some subtle differences from the original unedited pdf. The text characters were a little darker and thicker and NOT AS ATTRACTIVE as the original. More seriously, some of the O's had a flattened top while the O's bottoms had a curved shape AND THIS SHAPE PROBLEM WAS NOT PRESENT IN THE UNDEDITED PDF **OR** in the edited PDF viewed at 127% zoom factor, the way it opens originally in the Adobe reader.

Hence the correct answer to this QUESITON is **NOT** " just change the zoom factor in Adobe Reader to 100% when viewing this edited PDF!!!.

The problem is that changing the  zoom factor in Adobe reader is an algorithm, an equation, that cannot produce AS PERFECT A RESULT AS IF ADOBE ACROBAT IS SET TO PRODUCE A 100% ZOOM OUTPUT ASSUMING THE INPUT IS 100%.

 I have also noticed that ALL the PDF's sent to me by this guy (including a PDF contract he wants me to sign) are also at 127% zoom when opened with the Adobe Reader AND HE HAS NOTICED THIS TOO. The problem is he does not know WHAT SETTING IN ADOBE ACROBAT TO CHANGE TO CORRECT THIS. He does not regurlarly use Adobe Acrobat; he is not an expert in Adobe Acrobat.

The correct answer to this question is: In Acrobat, select (Menu item), and then select (Sub-menu item) and then in the Pop-up select (whatever). I,e Please SPELL the answer out IN DETAIL
Also please make clear whether your directions need to be done before Opening the PDF to be edited in Acrobat **OR* after editing it and just before doing a Save As or whatever Acrobat used to output a edited PDF **OR** is a change in the permanent Preferences/Options for Adobe Acrobat so it does not matter when the change is made.

Regards,
  Mike
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Zone: Software
Question Asked By: mgross333
Question Asked On: 05.07.2008
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05.07.2008 at 11:06AM PDT, ID: 21518892

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05.07.2008 at 11:06AM PDT, ID: 21518892

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Hi

This is relatively simple. Open the PDF in question in Acrobat Pro. If you want to make any other changes make them first.

The go to File|Document properties and select the 'Initial View' tab. In here you see a dropdown fo magnification. Select 100% and click OK, you can also set other opening options there. Worth playing around with some to get the exact result you want.

Once done select File| Save or Save As if you want to save it as a different document.

hth
capt.
 
05.07.2008 at 12:48PM PDT, ID: 21519748
captainreiss:,

Thanks for your reply.

I have forwarded your instructions on to the person who has Adobe Acrobat on their PC. I will assign points if the file they send back achieves the goal stated in my question.

Regards,
  Mike
 
05.07.2008 at 01:00PM PDT, ID: 21519856

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Thanks Mike.
 
05.08.2008 at 09:16AM PDT, ID: 21526048
captainreiss:,

I am wondering about your remark " ....you can also set other opening options there. Worth playing around with some to get the exact result you want.''

The problem was when the edited PDF was opened in Adobe Reader and zoom changed manually from 127% to 100% the result was not quite as good as the unedited original. (i.e some small visual problems had crept in).

SO.... I am NOW wondering about those other options that you refer to.

Is there an option named High Quality or High Resolution OR Quality or Resolution OR SIMILAR WORDS ?

Because if THERE IS SUCH AN OPTION then the problem could be it is set to Medium Quality or Medium Res or similar. i.e The problem with the edited PDF may not be the zoom factor but that the input was hi-quality and the output is medium quality because of a possible setting like that in Adobe Acrobat in the Initial View tab or some other tab under File|Document properties .

i.e medium quality could output a PDF with the same text and graphics but lower detail and the file size is smaller. Hi-quality would be a PDF with more detail and larger file size.

Example: Adobe Photoshop has EXACTLY a setting like this for JPEG photo file output , and it does exactly what I theorize in the paragraph above this. WHICH DOES NOT MEAN THAT ACROBAT HAS A SIMILAR SETTING BUT IT JUST MIGHT ?

(1) Captainreiss:, do you know if Acrobat has such a setting and if so, how do one navigate to it and what is the correct setting for max visual detail of an edited PDF.

(2) Also if this setting is not played with between opening and closing the PDF is the quality set to the quality of the input file? (Because if this is so, then there is no reason to adjust it as the input looks fine to me). OR is this a preference/option for Acrobat that applies to all output PDFs regardless of the quality of the input PDF. Or does my entire "quality" idea about Acrobat output not exist?

Mike

 
05.08.2008 at 10:53AM PDT, ID: 21526919

Rank: Guru

Hi Mike

the problem is not with the file, but with the medium through which you view the document. Of course you can change PDF settings on creation (NOT afterwards) to be at a higher resolution, but for viewing on screen it does not necessary make a difference. If you have a different resolution set on your monitor to me the same magnification will appear different as the pixels on your screen will distort if the resolution of the PDF (normally 72dpi) does not represent relationally to that resolution. Hence a higher resolution may not guarantee a a sharp picture at 300 dpi...this down to the structure of a PDF and its makeup of raster images and vectors. So you have a mixed property of graphic foramts which render differently.

The other settings merely relate to page display size and menu display amongst others. Resolution related changes are done from Distiller job options (new customised options) or the existing predefined job options can be selected from the PDF printer.

You can change resolution settings from right click Adobe PDF printer, select 'Printing Preferences' and the select 'High Quality Print' or 'Press Quality' from the Default Settings dropdown box, but apart from increasing PDF size it will not give you a solution to your issue.

So you effectively have the right thought process but your assumption of how the output relates to magnification is not the way how Acrobat handles the files. JPEGS in Photosop are rendered as graphics hence the simple behavior of scaling. As said if you look at a PDF it has a structure that sometimes misrepresents its contents, for instance fine lines in documents appear fat or block colours don't seem to line-up. All these change when you look at it on a different machine or at different zoom.

The great thing is that, as it is a truly portable format, users have learned to adjust zooms to suit there viewing habits, ultimately however you will never be able to predict a user's screen setup so 100% may work better on some monitors than one others and you have no option to control that.

hth
capt.
 
05.08.2008 at 10:56AM PDT, ID: 21526941

Rank: Guru

HI Mike

sorry for typos and strange paragraph structure, but I was trying to answer 2 of your questions at once.

The instruction for quality print is meant only as a how to change it but does not provide an answer to the zoom. Hope this is clear friom the post above.

best
capt.
 
05.08.2008 at 05:36PM PDT, ID: 21529638
captainreiss,

Thanks again for your post but unfortunately it is mis-directed. Look, I start with a PDF that looks fine and comes up with 100% zoom factor.. I send it to another PC where the only Acroabt changes are a minor text edit and the output zoom factor is set to 127%. I get the pdf back and view it (AND THIS IS WHERE YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION) on the same monitor at the same resolution and the pdf is on the same PC at it was to begin with, same HD.

And it looks a bit worse after changing the zoom factor in Adobe Reader to 100%?? How can that be UNLESS it was the change in zoom factor??

So your comments about "If you have a different resolution set on your monitor " AND "All these change when you look at it on a different machine or at different zoom." do NOT apply because it was viewed before and after on the same monitor, same resolution, same zoom factor (100%) and so on.

THE PROBLEM HAS GOT TO BE OUTPUTTING AT 127 % INSTEAD OF 100% THE WAY IT CAME IN. And the change in Adobe Reader back to 100% is where the imperfections creap in.

So again I forwarded your first post here to the Acrobat guy, and told him to start from scratch with the original unedited file, make the minor text edit, and output it according to your directions AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL FIX THE PROBLEM when viewed back at my end.

I will let you know.

Regards,
   Mike


 
05.09.2008 at 03:37AM PDT, ID: 21531533

Rank: Guru

Thanks Mike.
 
 
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