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Accessing a computer with UNC path

Asked by: jskfan

I am a domain admin in Domain A and also Domain admin in domain B
Domain A and B are separate domains with no Trust.
I am using the same user name and password in both domains.
what I don't understand, when I am in a DC in domain A I can use UNC path \\DCofDomainB
and then I can see the shares.
But if I try the UNC to access another computer which is not a DC in the domainB, I get the security window to enter user name and password.

I don't understand where the difference is.
Any idea?
Thanks

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2009-11-07 at 16:12:57ID24881027
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Windows 2003 Server

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Domain Name Service (DNS)

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Answers

 

by: oBdAPosted on 2009-11-07 at 16:31:24ID: 25768822

That's normal; it's because the remote machine will only access its *local* user database when checking credentials that another machine sent that's not in the same domain. For a DC, the "local" user database is the AD user database; for members, you'd need another local account.

"[...]
Windows 2000 behavior:
When a logon attempt is made, three things are specified: the user name, the encrypted password, and the domain name. All fields are optional. The following simplified logic is used by the Net Logon service to process these logon credentials:
1. If no domain is specified, or if the domain that is specified is the local domain (a computer or NetBIOS name for a member server), the local SAM database validates the logon. If an account is found, and the credentials match, the logon proceeds. If no account is found, and the domain is specified, the "account not found" message is returned.
[...]"
Windows NT User Account Database Search Order
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/163632

 

by: jskfanPosted on 2009-11-07 at 17:11:13ID: 25768912

I thought even if the user name and password used to logon to a DC in DomainA are the same as the exisiting one in AD database of the DC in DomainB, they still be considered different as the SID is different (because of 2 different domain in 2 different forests)

 

by: oBdAPosted on 2009-11-08 at 06:58:34ID: 25770667

When you're connecting to a machine that's not a member of the same domain, your current user name and password is sent to the remote machine, trying a pass-through authentication.
If a *LOCAL* account with the same name and password exists on the remote machine, you're allowed access (if you're accessing a DC, the DC will query the AD database).
If there is no matching *LOCAL* account (which is the case on all member servers, if the account is a domain account), the authentication window pops up.
That's why you can access a remote DC with your current account directly, but not a member server.

 

by: jskfanPosted on 2009-11-08 at 08:36:59ID: 25770931

<<pass-through authentication.>>
This might use plain text to compare the user name and password in a database of one DC and the the user name and password in a database of the other DC. That's what I concluded. correct?

 

by: oBdAPosted on 2009-11-08 at 08:43:36ID: 25770947

Not plain text, no. Only the password hash is known.
And again: pass-through authentication only works against the remote machine's LOCAL database (which ONLY in the case of the remote machine being a DC happens to be a domain database).

 

by: AwinishPosted on 2009-11-08 at 12:16:58ID: 25771707

Is the other machine you are trying to access is in domain or its a local machine?

Secondly, if its in domain check nslookup for that machine is working or not?

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