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Getting ready for a hard drive crash, Backup image

Asked by: BeenaGeorge

I have a HP Pavilion running Windows XP Home. From the sounds I hear, it appears that the hard disk is dying. I do not have the recovery disks for this computer. The recovery files are stored on a hidden partition on the hard disk. What would be the best way to get ready for a hard drive crash? I know I must maintain a copy of the data files. I am concerned about the applications. Is there a way to copy the files from the partition to create recovery disks? Is it better to use a product like Symantec Ghost or Acronis True Image to create a back-up image on an external drive?

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by: geodan7Posted on 2007-06-14 at 06:38:32ID: 19283301

I have used Norton Ghost 10 to make a backup image of my laptop on an external hard drive...that has worked well...however my IT guy always recommends to simply backup all of your files...and then go to Control Panel, copy down all the programs you have installed...and reinstall them. The Ghost option worked great for me though...it kept all my emails and every single file...etc.

 

by: geodan7Posted on 2007-06-14 at 06:39:58ID: 19283319

my IT guy recommends backing up files and "starting over" with the programs...because he feels it's always best to "start fresh" on a new computer...so that you aren't copying any bad fragments,etc over to a new computer...because if you have some problems on your current computer (viruses,etc)...you'll simply be copying them over to your new machine.

 

by: geodan7Posted on 2007-06-14 at 06:40:50ID: 19283327

but the ghost option is certainly the easiest...especially if you feel like your file system is clean enough...and it's just a hardware thing that seems to be failing.

 

by: Mr-MadcowzPosted on 2007-06-14 at 06:41:08ID: 19283329

While Ghost isn't the best product out there, it works and I use it all the time here on our network.

You install it and then create an image which would be an exact copy of your PC, OS, Icons, apps the lot.

I woud do this and do it soon. That way, if it does all die, it will only take you about 40 minutes to have it back up and running again (re-image time).

What I also do here is on top of regular images of desktops, I have created a 'standard desktop image' which is a basic install, apps, office, patches, xp2 etc, so if a machine dies or we get a new user, I can quickly slap this on and am ready in 40 minutes.

A lot of people will recommend Acronis, I have no experience of it so can't comment, except a lot of people say it is good,a nd a lot better than Ghost, which is a Symantec product so already has a lot against it.

For the backup device, Western Digital My Books are cheap and very quiet.

 

by: KevinSHIPosted on 2007-06-14 at 07:05:33ID: 19283596

If you plan to simply bacjkup your file to put in in the same PC go with Acronis as mentioned by Mr-Madcowz you can try it free here. is much more easier and intuitive than Norton ghost.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

However if you wish to back your data to move them on a new PC the option of manually copying your data would be better because of the new harware.

Note that its also possible to move you data to a new computer with an imaging tool but you have to do an install repair of windows.

Note 2. Concerning Symantec i Love this company their COPORATE PRODUCT are great. Anything symantec ( Symantec antivirus , Symantec Ghost) will work great. BUT Anything NORTON IS a NO TOUCH. Norton antivirus , internet security (havent treid norton ghost) just use all of you system ressource.
Norton = consummer =BAD
Symantec Product = corporate = GOOD

Hope this helps

 

by: BeenaGeorgePosted on 2007-06-14 at 09:59:08ID: 19285163

Is there any way to get the files from the hard disk partition on to some removable media?

 

by: KevinSHIPosted on 2007-06-14 at 10:01:46ID: 19285187

sure you could either burn them on a dvd if you have a dvd burner.
or you could copy /paste them on a usb hard drive if you have one.
like stated above the WD my book are cheap or the maxtor Personal Storage are cheap too

 

by: BeenaGeorgePosted on 2007-06-14 at 10:38:54ID: 19285463

I used Disk management and looked at the partition. The HP_Recovery partition is
a primary partition
FAT32
EISA configuration
4.29GB capacity with 707MB free.
It does not have a drive letter.

I am not able to copy from the partition or view the files in the partition.

 

by: KevinSHIPosted on 2007-06-14 at 10:41:15ID: 19285475

Hum you should have another patiton on there right?

 

by: BeenaGeorgePosted on 2007-06-14 at 10:58:41ID: 19285631

Yes, the other partition is C:

 

by: KevinSHIPosted on 2007-06-14 at 11:04:14ID: 19285677

this is the parttion you want to backup the other one is a sort of recovery partition that youcan use if your OS is corrupt

So you take your data form C:

 

by: BeenaGeorgePosted on 2007-06-14 at 11:11:57ID: 19285734

I was wondering if I can create a recovery disk from the files in there.
It appears there is no way to create a recovery disk for this particular model, according to HP tech support - and they do not sell it anymore

 

by: davebytesPosted on 2007-06-14 at 20:13:08ID: 19288954

First.. the recovery partition on an older machine simply allows you to survive a corruption (bad blocks, bad data, virus, whatever) of the primary partition.  It doesn't restore data files, it doesn't restore applications beyond what may have initially shipped with the machine (and even then not necessarily everything).

Second, you are best off with something like Acronis TrueImage (which I use myself), or Norton Save and Restore 2 (the newer generation of "Ghost for home users" tech).  All 'drive image' products should allow you to directly backup/burn images to CD/DVD writeable media at this point.  However, if you're talking like 20+GB of data, that's a few DVDs, and a ton of CDs!

If you >truly< think the drive is dying, here's what I'd do.  Go buy another drive (can be bigger, drives are cheap these days, don't try to 'match' what you have -- though make sure your machine can handle bigger drive properly), buy TrueImage or S&R2, boot from the TI or S&R CD (or install the software and build a bootable backup+recovery disc), and image DIRECTLY, uncompressed, from old drive to new drive.  If you've given up on old drive, remove it, put new drive as primary drive, and system should continue on its merry way...

Or, buy two drives.  Install one, and run compressed backups to it nightly.  keep incremental backups, or keep two or three full backups.  If the old drive dies, replace it with the second blank new drive, and use the restore disc and restore from the most recent successful backup image (I say to keep multiple backup images in case the old drive dies DURING a backup, don't want to lose your only image!).

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