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Resize partition on Server with Boot NG HELP!!!

Asked by: jeffschick

Help!
I tried to resize the partitions on my dell server (RAID 1) from C Drive to make C drive larger, but it did not let me...here is what I did:
1. Loaded BootNG on a disk
2. Loaded BootnG Boot from disk on the boot menu
3. Chose Partition Work
4. Here is my problem: It shows the OS-C drive as a Partition, and then the DATADRIVE (D) as a VOLUME.
5. I tried to resize D and slide it, but I could not resize C (It was still maxed out)

So, I slid the freespace back, and resized D to its original and am back to square 1.

Would Acronis work or still have the same problem? Are there any other things I could try to use BootNG or any other softwares I could buy to resize the C drive. Please dont suggest taking things off...C is maxed out so I need to resize. Thanks!

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by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 13:39:41ID: 25055846

The software I use to resize drives is Paragon Partition Manager Server Edition - www.paragon-software.com/business/pm-server/

Works every time and has an easy to use GUI.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 13:40:34ID: 25055852

Make sure you have a reliable backup before running any disk re-sizing tool and run a full disk check first too - just to make sure there are no errors that will cause problems with the re-size - I had one go horribly wrong before!!

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 13:41:59ID: 25055865

I would re-size (shrink) the drive after C: first and let that complete, then expand the C: drive into the space freed up by shrinking the drive after it.

It is a two / three step process, but much easier to do than all-in-one.

 

by: BytyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 13:51:50ID: 25055915

Also make a defrag of the disk before modifiy any partition size... it`s highly recomanded!

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 14:27:00ID: 25056056

So,
Any ideas though on why the Boot NG did not work - anything I could try to make it so in the future If I Try paragon it will work...I have RAID 1 (Mirroring) [I accidentally said 0 above, it is acutally Raid 1],

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 14:28:44ID: 25056065

Sorry - don't know BootNG.

Can you screen dump your Disk Manager screen to show me / others what you are looking at.

Thanks

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 14:29:47ID: 25056072

Where is Disk Manager - I have never used this before.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 14:31:51ID: 25056080

Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management - Disk Management.

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 14:36:34ID: 25056086

Here it is:

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 14:39:48ID: 25056093

Should I move the pagefile to Drive D from C to help with the space issue, or will it not free up any space. I am trying to free up the space by about 1-4 GB since it is down to 288MB on C. However, i was reading that you should not put a pagefile on a mirrored Raid volume (which we have), so it leaves me in the blank not knowing what to do to fix this.

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 14:42:24ID: 25056100

RIght now the paging file size is 2046-4092 on the C drive. If I were to change it to make it say 500MB on the C drive and 2046-4092 on the D drive, would this free up my space so that the disk manager would show greater than 2% freespace remaining?

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 14:55:54ID: 25056140

Okay - thanks for the screen shot.

The problem you have and this is common to most Dell's (you gotta love the way they build them ;-) ) is that the D: drive is in an Extended partition and you cannot change this Extended Partition.

What you need to do is backup the D: drive (prefereably using some imaging software like Symantec Backup Exec System Recovery Server or Acronis Backup & Recovery 10 Server for Windows), remove the D: drive, delete the extended partition, re-size the C: drive, create a D: in a non-extended partition and then put the D: drive back via the image you just took.

In terms of the pagefile, you could re-size it or move it, but you need a pagefile on the C: drive so that Windows can dump it's memory to file in case it blue screens.

Have you downloaded something like foldersize (http://foldersize.sourceforge.net/) to see where your space is being eaten up?

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:00:30ID: 25056149

Okay - so the D drive has hardly anything of any importance on it...so could I just simply copy the folders over to another computer instead of using backup exec and then just simply copy and paste the folders back once done?
Also, how would I go about doing all of the deleting, resizing and creations?
I have not downloaded foldersize, but will to check on what is using the files. I know that about 7GB is in the WINDOWS folder.

would changing the pagefile likely help free up any space, and if it would, what should i make the pagefile size on the C drive?

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:06:16ID: 25056172

The size of the pagefile is usually proportional to the amount of memory you have in the server.

Before you worry about that though - if the D: drive has nothing much of interest on it, then it would be a good idea to move the data elsewhere but be careful in case you have shared out any folders on the D: drive as these would get lost if you move them elsewhere.

Go back to the Computer Management Screen and expand the shared folders part and look to see if you have any shared folders on the D: drive.

If you do, write down the location and then visit the location to check the permissions and share permissions and write those down too as you will need to put them back later.

If there are no shares, then that makes life much easier.

You can delete the D: drive and the extended partition in Disk Manager and then use BootNG to resize the C: drive a little, then create a D: drive and put your data back.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:14:08ID: 25056190

In terms of the pagefile - you can reduce it to almost nothing (about 2Mb) and it would free up space.

As long as you have a reasonable size pagefile on the D: drive, you should be fine.

If the server Blue Screens - it would want to dump the contents of it's memory to disk and would not be able to without the pagefile, but it is unlikely that you would use the info in the dump - I have had to on about 2-3 occasions over the past 20 years!

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:18:16ID: 25056203

Okay, so not to be redundant or stupid, but in Disk Manager, could you help walk me through step by step how to delete the D drive and partition...also luckily, no shared drives! this is a citrix server so only used for TS connections...which means hardly any stored files on D drive, but lots of user profiles on the C drive.

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:19:50ID: 25056208

actually, the only shared drive on D is the D$ which windows says "This has been shared for administrative purposes. THe share permissions and file security settings cannot be changed"

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:20:58ID: 25056213

Okay - move the data off the D: drive.

In Disk Manager, click on the D: drive and then right-click over the D: drive and choose Delete Partition.

That will disappear.

Now Select the Green Extended Partition and right-click on that area and choose Delete.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:21:25ID: 25056214

That's there by default - don't worry about that one.  It will get re-created.

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:23:51ID: 25056219

So after deleting the Green extended partition step, how do I recreate the D partition?

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:26:17ID: 25056228

Sorry - Right click the blank area and Create a new Partition - then assign it a drive and Format it.

Have a read through this MS document to understand it more:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323442

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:27:44ID: 25056234

When and how would I resize the C Drive before making the new partition? Would I use BootNG?

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:28:09ID: 25056237

And will this work for Raid 1 mirroring configurations?

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:29:14ID: 25056244

As your RAID is hardware RAID - there won't be any problems.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:30:53ID: 25056255

Yes - use BootNG to resize the C: drive after deleting the D: drive and the Extended Partition.  It should work.

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:33:20ID: 25056261

okay so delete in diskmanager, resize C in bootnG, and then add in diskmanager upon restart. Is this correct?

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:35:56ID: 25056275

That's correct.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:37:22ID: 25056280

You could also use Windows diskpart (from a DOS window) to increase the C: drive.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325590

 

by: jeffschickPosted on 2009-08-09 at 15:57:54ID: 31613473

Thanks!

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