Dragon NaturallySpeaking won't install on my Windows Vista 64-bit operating system

by: ZylochPosted on 2009-01-12 at 14:34:02ID: 23358211

I did a little searching, and I found this for version 9.51. I don't know if it will work for version 10, but you can give it a try: http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6122_102-0.html?forumID=44&threadID=280578&messageID=2765366#2765366

by: Brum07Posted on 2009-01-12 at 14:36:28ID: 23358232

See here;

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6122_102-0.html?forumID=44&threadID=280578&messageID=2765366

Regards

by: ThekiddotusPosted on 2009-01-15 at 17:50:40ID: 23389793

Ok thanks but where do i get Orca and what is that ?

by: ZylochPosted on 2009-01-15 at 18:11:42ID: 23389859

You can get Orca from http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2004/07/12/180792.aspx. It is used to get rid of the check for 32-bit Windows that Dragon NaturallySpeaking does in its installer.

by: ThekiddotusPosted on 2009-01-15 at 18:24:43ID: 23389898

thanks i just try that but not when i try to install it now give me the error of that it does not have visual c++ runtime or something like that.
And cant install with out it.

What do i do now ?

by: ZylochPosted on 2009-01-15 at 18:29:04ID: 23389913

Maybe downloading this would solve things: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=EB4EBE2D-33C0-4A47-9DD4-B9A6D7BD44DA&displaylang=en

by: ThekiddotusPosted on 2009-01-15 at 18:34:46ID: 23389936

i tryed that and i did it again plus i also tryed the 2008 version and the 2005 in both 32bit and 64 bit and when i try to install dns i get this

Visual C++ Runtime for DNS is not supported on 64-bit opertating system and cannot be installed.

by: ThekiddotusPosted on 2009-01-15 at 18:36:40ID: 23389945

also here is a snap shoot of what i see.

DNS.JPG
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Snapshoot of my message i get when trying to install DNS

by: ZylochPosted on 2009-01-15 at 18:45:42ID: 23389974

Is there another reference to 64-bit in Orca that you can remove?

by: ThekiddotusPosted on 2009-01-15 at 18:51:51ID: 23389993

No not that i know where to find. I looked in Orca and did not see anything other then the NT64 thing but did not see anything else do you know where i can look for others did you see the attached photo of what i got in message from DNS ?

by: ZylochPosted on 2009-01-15 at 19:30:03ID: 23390114

Yes, I saw it. It was another error message, which is why I thought there might be another place you need to tweak the installer in Orca. In a few of the following posts in the thread Brum07 and I linked to, people had to drop a few more entries. See if those help you out. (Also keep in mind that 10 might be different from the 9.51 that the people on that forum had)

by: ThekiddotusPosted on 2009-01-31 at 21:59:31ID: 23520214

i still cant get this program to work with my 64 bit machine see image i posted and yes i have the latest version and if this is the reason why this hack does not work ok fine. Then what is the hack to get version 10 to work ?
i really like to use this software i spent a lot of money on it and can not return and i dont want to go to a 32 bit os as i have 8 gb of ram and 32 bit wont support that.

by: vallisPosted on 2009-02-13 at 11:00:50ID: 23635987

I think you're out of luck Thekiddotus. I got caught too, fortunately only with a trial version.
This was brought up here on EE a few days ago:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Voice_Recognition/Dragon_NaturallySpeaking/Q_24126847.html

Version 10 is NOT 64-bit compatible and the workarounds which work with V9 don't work with V10.
Here's a quote from Peter Mahoney, vice president and general manager, Dragon Naturally Speaking, Nuance Communications.

"... Dragon 10 is not compatible with Vista 64 at this point. You are also correct that we check the installed operating system before we installed Dragon 10 on your computer. We do not recommend that you modify the installer. If you do, while Dragon may install, it will probably exhibit some unexpected behavior and we may not be able to support you.
When we started planning this latest version of Dragon, the penetration of 64-bit versions of Windows Vista was extremely small. In fact, most industry analysts also projected that the penetration of 64-bit operating systems would continue to be extremely small. Based on that information, we decided to release the 32-bit version of Dragon 10 first and follow up with a 64-bit version as soon as we could. Since that time, the adoption rate of 64-bit operating systems has accelerated significantly. We are committed to providing support as soon as possible. We have not announced a specific date for this release yet, but we will be sending out announcements to our registered customers and people who opt in to communications about Dragon on our website.
The work required to support 64-bit operating systems for this kind of application is not trivial. Dragon is an application that interfaces with many other applications on your desktop. And because not every application behaves as you might expect, especially when you factor in 64-bit versions of these applications, the testing required to deliver a high-quality product is not insignificant.
The bottom line is that we know that Vista 64 is important to our customers and we are committed to supporting it. I appreciate your interest in this topic please let me know if you have any additional questions........"

It's outrageous that such expensive software should be marketed without making it very clear that it's not 64-bit compatible. 64-bit systems have been in existence for many years and with the advent of Vista and recent versions of programs like Photoshop there's a need for 64-bit to enable support for more than 3GB of RAM.

64-bit Vista use is rowing exponentially. It's time these people got their act together.

by: ThekiddotusPosted on 2009-03-11 at 14:45:50ID: 23862726

Yeah so this sucks i cant return it and on the box it never said anything about not working with 64bit it just said work with windows xp and VISTA and i think ok i have vista and it says it works does not say that it does with Vista 64 bit but did not say it did not either so i thought should be fine.

Since many other software titles are.

Boy was i wrong =o(

And i cant downgrade to 32bit cause then my 8GB memory be useless =o(

by: vallisPosted on 2009-03-11 at 17:38:46ID: 23863766

May be worth raising hell with the nice folk at Nuance. Imply further action without direct threats.

I feel a blog post coming on.

:o)

Alan Vallis

by: gammPosted on 2009-09-10 at 17:17:49ID: 25305810

Hi, thought I'd share this with everyone..

Download 10.1 64 Bit from here:
http://www.nuance.com/vista/naturallyspeaking/Dragon10.1

You will need your serial number to download it.

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