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05.09.2008 at 03:51AM PDT, ID: 23388872 | Points: 125
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SQL Server 2000 and VSS - avoiding backup of SQL Server datafiles

Tags: Microsoft, SQL Server, VSS, 2000
Hi,

I'm using scheduled NTBackup jobs to take a backup of my Server 2003 box.  Since I'm performing SQL Server backups of the databases, I'm more interested in including these backup files in the NTBackup, rather than the actual SQL Server datafiles themselves.  I want to avoid, if I can, the databases being "frozen", backed up, and "thawed".  I have therefore not included the datafiles in my backup job, but the databases still appear to be subject to the freezing and thawing process.

How can I stop this happening?
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Zone: Storage
Question Asked By: bjh1977
Question Asked On: 05.09.2008
Participating Experts: 2
Points: 125
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05.09.2008 at 03:59AM PDT, ID: 21531611

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05.09.2008 at 05:11AM PDT, ID: 21531947

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05.09.2008 at 05:50AM PDT, ID: 21532213

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05.09.2008 at 06:36AM PDT, ID: 21532595

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05.09.2008 at 06:59AM PDT, ID: 21532845

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05.09.2008 at 07:02AM PDT, ID: 21532878

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05.09.2008 at 07:05AM PDT, ID: 21532909

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05.09.2008 at 07:34AM PDT, ID: 21533215

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05.09.2008 at 07:36AM PDT, ID: 21533241

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05.14.2008 at 08:49AM PDT, ID: 21565482

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05.09.2008 at 03:59AM PDT, ID: 21531611
are you ommiting the msdb, master and tempdb database from the backup too
 
05.09.2008 at 05:11AM PDT, ID: 21531947
Yes I would like to omit ALL the the databases from the NTBackup backup.  I'm only interested in backing up the backup files using NTBackup at this point.
 
05.09.2008 at 05:50AM PDT, ID: 21532213
I think a simple exclusion of the *.mdf and *.ldf file extensions would do the trick
 
05.09.2008 at 06:36AM PDT, ID: 21532595
Yeah I've excluded the whole "Data" folder, but the freezing/thawing of the database still happens...
 
05.09.2008 at 06:59AM PDT, ID: 21532845
Ahhhh.... I understand now

The problem is with the Volume Shadow Copy "writer" for SQL server

I'm not sure exactly how you'd disable the provide
 
05.09.2008 at 07:02AM PDT, ID: 21532878
Ooops, the last word was supposed to be "provider"
 
05.09.2008 at 07:05AM PDT, ID: 21532909
Ah, so are you saying that if I disable the writer ("MSDEWriter" as its SQL2000) then this will do the trick.  Does that then mean the files are simply ignored and not backed up?
 
05.09.2008 at 07:34AM PDT, ID: 21533215
I'm not certain.... in fact, if you disable MSDEWriter, it's possible that the backup will fail completely.

I think you're in uncharted territory, and will just have to try it.
 
05.09.2008 at 07:36AM PDT, ID: 21533241
Oh, wait... to answer the 2nd part of your last question.

Yes, if this works, the backup will skip those files as "file in use, unable to lock" and just skip those files and move on to the next file.   The backup log file would contain the list of skipped files.
 
05.14.2008 at 08:49AM PDT, ID: 21565482
I'll come back to this once I've tried it out...
 
 
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