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BIOS and XP will not recognise new SATA drive when reinstalling XP - XP unable to detect HDD

Asked by: peteborder

As a favour to my father in-law, I offered to sort out his ailing PC.  Taking the belt and braces option I purchased a new SATA HDD, with the intention of installing a clean copy of XP and then all the other software. Once this was up and running then I would take the old SATA drive and place it in the external drive casing and move the required files across.
I unplugged the old Seagate SATA drive, plugged in the new one and attempted to install XP...this is where my problems begin.

XP install starts up from the CD and gets as far as telling me that it is unable to detect hard disk drives installed on this pc.  I have been unable to get past and my patience are wearing thin and I am losing the will to live.  Enough of the fluff...some important details...

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Motherboard -  gigabyte k8 triton series ga k8n pro
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New Harddrive - seagate barracuda 7200.10 160gb (SATA)
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Selective BIOS setting...
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STANDARD CMOS FEATURES
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1)IDE HDD Auto - detection  - AUTO

a)IDE Primary = Auto
b)Access Mode = Auto

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ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES
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1)SCSI/RAID Cntrl BOOT ORDER

a) ITE RAID CONTROLLER
b) SOILICON IMAGE MASS STORAGE CONTROLLER

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INTERGRATED PERIPHERALS
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1)ONBOARD SERIAL ATA = enabled
20SERIAL ATA FUNCTION = base
3)ONBOARD GIGA-RAID = enabled
4)GIGA RAID FUNCTION = ata

So far I have fiddled with some of the BIOS settings.  When the PC boots up and it performs a check to detect IDE drives (not sure of this) then it seems to see new drive, in the sense that it displays the size on the screen.  Even when I plug the old drive back in, the BIOS still does not see the original drive...but it still works and XP is still operational...phew.

I have an external case and plugged the new drive and formatted a 60gb active primary partition and my laptop can see and write to this when plugged in via USB.

After reading some postings, I realized that I needed to hit F6 when the XP install starts up.  I found the 'driver' files on the CD and copied them to a 3.5" floppy.  There are 2 XP options to select from and when I select either then I still do not progress any further. I have not updated the BIOS as I'm sure if this will kill the PC off.  At present they can still use email and internet.  After 2 days...it is if I have not touched it apart from a few changes to the BIOS.

Many postings detail issues with SATA HDD and now they have claimed me as another victim...but hopefully only temporary...

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2008-02-24 at 17:03:57ID23189099
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k8 triton series ga k8n pro & seagate barracuda 7200.10 160 gb

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Answers

 

by: lamaslanyPosted on 2008-02-24 at 17:15:59ID: 20972278

You need to provide the SATA drivers during the DOS-section of the Windows XP install.  You should be able to get these from the motherboard manufacturer.  Sadly you'll likely need a floppy disk.

During the install take note of the text at the bottom of the screen - it should ask you to press F6 to allow you to give it the drivers it needs.  (Note:  I believe that the actual section where is asks for the drivers comes a little later in the install - it has been a while!)

 

by: lamaslanyPosted on 2008-02-24 at 17:16:47ID: 20972280

Ignore me - somehow I missed an entire paragraph when I read your post!!  :)

 

by: Pc_IdiotPosted on 2008-02-24 at 17:22:01ID: 20972296

peteborder,

your mainboard may not be able to detect harddisk size larger than 160GB. Suggestions would be:

1) Update your mainboard's BIOS but please perform this with care (depending on your mainboard's manufacturer, some may still not support large harddisk even after BIOS update)

2) Proceed to Seagate website and download tools to allow ur mainboard to recognise your harddisk:

- http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=DiscWizard&vgnextoid=d9fd4a3cdde5c010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD

- http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=SeaTools&vgnextoid=720bd20cacdec010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD

 

by: 0xSaPx0Posted on 2008-02-24 at 17:50:21ID: 20972377

You should also try to download the latest SATA drivers from Gigabyte

http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherboard/Driver_List.aspx?Keyword=gigabyte%20k8%20triton

0xSaPx0

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-24 at 18:28:27ID: 20972508

The K8N Pro has 2 SATA RAID controllers on board. One is the nVidia RAID controller (one that's set for Base). No F6 drivers are required for single drives (no RAID) connected to nVidia controller when installing XP SP1 or later.

nVidia controller SATA connectors are those closest to CPU socket in picture.

There is no drive size limitation.

The PC I'm typing this on has a K8NS Pro motherboard and I've built several systems on it's brother -- the K8NS.

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-24 at 18:46:20ID: 20972588

At present the new drive is plugged into the SATA RAID controller.  

Willcomp - you say that the mobo should be able to accept large drives, I have only partitioned 60gb of it  and set it to be the primary partition. So this should not be an issue....?  Can you seen anything wrong in the BIOS settings or any setting that I should look for?    

When I try and detect the HDD in the BIOS it cannot detect it?  Would you expect it to? Even when I replug in the orignal working one (120gb) it cannot detect this either....but continues to boot up and work etc.  You also say that no F6 drivers are required..so other than tweaking the BIOS settings ...I can't see what else I can do...any ideas?

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-24 at 19:23:10ID: 20972717

Which SATA RAID controller is it plugged into? The nVidia one or the SiI one? XP SP1 or later? Use the nVidia controller connections.

As best I recall, BIOS does not show drives connected to SATA controllers.

Drivers are needed for SiI controller. It must be enabled in BIOS and configured in its own BIOS.

This is a rather complex motherboard to configure. I have 2 drives in RAID 1, so can't check my own settings. Will have access to a K8NS with single drives tomorrow.

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-24 at 19:35:05ID: 20972761

Hi willcomp - thanks for your input.  The existing working drive and then the new one (i just unplugged the cables from the old HDD and plugged them into new HDD) is plugged into SATA0_SII..  When you say nViida...what do you mean?  I have the motherboard layout pic in front of me...there are 2 reds one..1 labelled SATA0_SII and 1 labelled SATA1_SII...is one of these the nVidia one? Its currently plugged into SATA0_SII.

I have XP home with SP1a included on it.  

Any idea what setting I am looking for in the BIOS?  Or a key word I might be looking for?

Thanks in advance for checking out the K8NS tomorrow.

What confuses me I guess is that with the existing BIOS settings etc the guy who built the PC originally was able to get a 120/130gb SATA drive to work,  The existing HDD was a seagate and so is the new one...unless he had some tricks up his sleeve!  Cheers  Pb

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-24 at 19:36:15ID: 20972766

My bad -- I'm giving you info on a K8NS Pro, not a K8N Pro. Sorry for the confusion.

The K8N Pro only has a SiI SATA RAID controller. Here's a link to driver you need:
http://www.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/Driver_DownloadFile.aspx?FileType=Driver&FileID=2698

Drive still probably won't show in BIOS.

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-24 at 19:40:36ID: 20972778

I posted about the same time you did. Hope I cleared the confusion. You DO need F6 drivers.

K8NS will be no help. It has nVidia RAID and a different chipset (nForce3-250). The K8N Pro has an nForce3-150 chipset and SiI SATA RAID.

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-24 at 19:47:27ID: 20972800

willcomp - i think i downloaded this today already but it is an exe...what do i need to do with this...i'm guessing when you hit F6 its not expeceting an exe.but a txt file...if i click on the exe will it try to install to my laptop...sorry for being a bit thick!...

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-24 at 19:49:09ID: 20972804

...also did you take a look at the BIOS settings i listed...anything stand out as being out of place...wrong?

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-24 at 21:12:59ID: 20973056

BIOS settings are OK.

The .exe file will create two folders on your hard disk (no software is installed).  Copy files from AMD64 folder to a floppy disk. You'll need a PC with a floppy drive to create disk.

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-25 at 06:25:19ID: 20975465

willcomp - thanks for the info..I'll give it a try tonight. Cheers.

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-27 at 16:44:15ID: 21000255

willcomp - I'm glad that there are some serious points up for grab heere as i feel I am being a pian.  So...I've downloaded the RAID drivers and press F6 during install.  It reads the disk and gives me the option of Intel or AMD.  I choose AMD...it spins the A disk for a bit and then tells me that '\amd64\S13112.sys is corrupted' and then returns me the screen where all I can do is continue.  It then asks me if want to install from new, repair xp etc.  Now when I get here...the keyboard is frozen and my onl option is to switch the bloomin thing off.  I have downloaded it twice now and used 2 different floppy drives...any ideas?

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-27 at 18:25:47ID: 21000725

Download and extract drivers again. Then copy to another floppy disk. In most cases, that error is caused by a faulty floppy disk. Floppies ain't what they used to be :-)

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-27 at 19:52:13ID: 21001097

...yeah ... i'm afraid that i've already tried that...i've now downloaded onto 2 different computers and tried 2 different (new) floppies...still the same end result.  I've even checked to make that the files are not read-only....not sure what else to do now...

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-27 at 19:56:16ID: 21001117

I may have told you wrong to start with. Did you copy all extracted files or only the AMD folder? If only AMD folder, copy all extracted files to diskette.

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-27 at 20:09:09ID: 21001164

On the disk i copied:

motherboard_driver_raid_silicon_3x12_bootdisk(x64).exe
readme.txt
TXTSETUP.OEM
AMD64\SI3112.INF
AMD64\SI3112.SYS
AMD64\SILSUPP.CPL
AMD64\SIWINACC.SYS

I believe that all the files are there...it just think that SI3112 file is corrupted...hmmmm

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-27 at 20:19:58ID: 21001192

It's not necessary to copy .exe file to disk. As best I can tell, you should only need files in AMD64 folder.

Possible that floppy drive is faulty or file is corrupt. F6 drivers are a pain in the rear.

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-28 at 08:45:05ID: 21005628

I also need the TXTSETUP.OEM as when it is not there then it complains very loudly...

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-28 at 09:17:20ID: 21005945

Yep, you do. Copy TXTSETUP.OEM, AMD64 folder, and IA64 folder to floppy. The directory where I extracted the files is sorted by date and I missed txtsetup.oem file since it sorted on date file was originally created and sank to near bottom of a long list.

If I keep working on this, I'll get it right eventually.

 

by: peteborderPosted on 2008-02-28 at 10:36:01ID: 21006689

I haven't been copying the IA64 folder, I thought that was only needed if you had an intel chip?  I'm guessing that the OEM is like a script that it runs through.  But when it claims of a corrupted file, it references one in the AMD64 folder..I'll try tonite and include the IA64 folder as well.  Many thanks for hanging in there...I'd like to get past these initial errors  so I can get the software installed and quit pestering you...

 

by: willcompPosted on 2008-02-28 at 12:41:56ID: 21007810

Not a problem. We'll keep trying.

 

by: Computer101Posted on 2008-03-26 at 14:42:44ID: 21216574

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