Question

Restored Image Does Not Fit Hard Drive Partition

Asked by: JCtheWizard

I have an image of a 160 GB drive as my backup.  The image is created with Acronis 11.  I am familiar with Acronis and have used it several times to restore.

The internal 160 GB drive failed and I purchased a new 250 GD drive to gain more room.

I ran the 'restore' from Acronis in dos and the program requires that I delete the existing partition on the new drive.  Upon completion of the restore the drive now shows 160 GB.

In an effort to figure this out I formatted the drive myself and set a new partition (250GB).  After that I again ran acronis and restored 'files and folders' instead.  This took about 30 hours for the 130 GB of files.  After the restore and boot up I got a 'NTLDR' missing senario.

Next I used Western Digital Disk Tools to wipe the drive and set a new 250 GB partition.  Then I restored from Acronis again and am back at the 160 GB partition.

What am I doing wrong?

How can I upgrade to a larger drive and use my drive image to restore the system and data without limiting the size of the drive?

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2009-01-17 at 11:56:41ID24060867
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Answers

 

by: dbruntonPosted on 2009-01-17 at 12:23:49ID: 23402264

You can expand the size of the partition once it has restored.

For example

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm

will do this for you.  It is recommended by various experts here.  Free to try.  Note I understand it is not necessary to install BootIt on the machine.  When the option comes up you press the ESC key to bypass that option.

I have not tried it yet.  It is on my list of things to do.

Other applications also exist to do this.

 

by: brawneyPosted on 2009-01-17 at 12:29:27ID: 23402284

You should be able to resize the partition to the size of the disk when you restore it.  

The Acronis site (http://www.acronis.com/company/inpress/2007/03-15-boot-loader-6.html) says:

"You can resize a partition to accommodate a larger hard drive, or change partition types and file systems."

I've done this when cloning one disk to another using Acronis.  I don't know that I've ever done it while restoring an image, but I think it can be done.

 

by: JCtheWizardPosted on 2009-01-17 at 13:52:49ID: 23402643

Brawney said: "You can resize a partition to accommodate a larger hard drive, or change partition types and file systems."

The link did tak me to an overview of Acronis 10 - and the content of the quote pertains to cloning a drive - from another drive - I have not seen anythig that say this will work from an image - nothing present when choosing the impage to restore from.

 

by: brawneyPosted on 2009-01-17 at 14:07:35ID: 23402706

I thought that was an article on restoring a backup, not a cloning operation.  I know it was on v10, but I've always seen that new versions of Acronis will always do what the older versions did so I assumed if 10 can do it then 11 can do it too.

I've done it with a clone operation with Acronis and the help file says it will do it with a restore, but I'm thinking maybe it won't.  One user comment here (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2257164,00.asp) says:

"The interface doesn't seem to allow me to resize the partition when I restore an image, although the help files indicate it will."

 

by: JCtheWizardPosted on 2009-01-17 at 17:54:30ID: 23403346

Brawney said "The interface doesn't seem to allow me to resize the partition when I restore an image, although the help files indicate it will."

Right - I contact Acronis theorug Chat - got Manish to chat with :~)

Share with him the same - he cam e back (after quite a long time) with:

Manish: Please give me sometime to check.
Manish: You can choos the option not to delete the partition and then restore.
John Charleston: I'll look into that right now

I am running that operation righ now and will close out if it works.

What I did was re-install the Toshiba Windows set up disk - to format and partition the 250 GB.  the booted on Acronis.  Restore process and when selecting the image to restore I  DID NOT select the complete image - did not select MBR -\ as part of the recovery.

With that the next screen is different (and not in the help files) it asked if I want to make the partition Active, and initally showd the partion as full size.  I went back to confirm what it was doing and this time it allowed me to meake the restored partition full size.

So, I will know in a few hours if this is the ticket.

 

by: burrcmPosted on 2009-01-18 at 02:28:24ID: 23404479

I haven't used Acronis restore for a bit, but where you set up the restore, you definitely don't get the option if you use the default selection of disk and mbr, so you are on the correct track.

Chris B

 

by: brawneyPosted on 2009-01-18 at 07:57:21ID: 23405276

JCtheWizard - sounds like you may have your answer?

I've used Acronis since v7.  I upgrade about every other year.  I had 7, 9, 10 and just upgraded to 2009.  Great product!

 

by: JCtheWizardPosted on 2009-01-19 at 09:17:07ID: 23412517

Here is my result  the recovery failed.
The scenario  recall that I used Western Digital Disk Tools to wipe the drive and set a new 250 GB partition.  Then I restored from Acronis again and am back at the 160 GB partition.

After trying the suggestions above and then texting with Acronis support I tried their way first  failed (which means that after performing the image restore the computer failed to reboot on it's own).

Next I decided to use the Windows XP disk to format, create a full partition, set up xp and then do the restore as Acronis suggested.  I was thrilled last night when completing this operation the computer rebooted to it's correct state.  I rebooted several times.

Next I copied the original restore image to another computer and using Acronis I created a new image of this restored drive.

Upon waking this morning I find the computer with a black screen and the horizontal curser flashing as it does when not booting.

I shut the computer down and tried several starts  all failed.
I booted off Acronis and from their could see that all the data is indead on the C drive as well the image on the external drive is there.

I'm still at a loss 

It would appear as if something is missing during the boot cycle is missing:

When bios set to boot from CD 
Black Toshiba boot-splash screen opens and then goes away leaving a black screen running 

Intel Boot Agent FE v4.1.10
Initializing  Establishing a link&

PXE-E61: Media Test Failure. Check cable
PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel Boot Agent
(flashing horizontal white curser)

Reset bios to boot from HD 

Black Toshiba boot-splash screen opens and then goes away leaving a black screen and 

(flashing horizontal white curser)

So there is more to the problem?
Does this sound like a Master Boot Record issue?
Any suggestions are welcome.

 

by: JCtheWizardPosted on 2009-01-19 at 10:06:49ID: 23413031

More info pertaining the the above:

In looking around for the term " PXE-E61: Media Test Failure. Check cable" I'm reading a lot about hardware issues.  So, let me set that straight.

I own 2 of these Toshiba A55 laptops (both are identical in the complete model number).  Both have 1 GB ram.  Both computers BIOS display the memory and show their hard drive.

I exchanged the drives and the symptom (problem) occurs on the machine with the problem (restored) drive.

This is focusing me on something that is happening in the boot process.

Hope this helps!

 

by: dbruntonPosted on 2009-01-19 at 12:39:28ID: 23414288

"PXE-E61: Media Test Failure. Check cable"

That's designed for booting off the network.  That'll be an option in the BIOS.



Just need to verify.  You swapped drives but the problem is still on the same machine?  Swapping drives didn't achieve anything?

 

by: JCtheWizardPosted on 2009-01-19 at 13:15:08ID: 23414595

dbrunton asked: "Just need to verify.  You swapped drives but the problem is still on the same machine?  Swapping drives didn't achieve anything?"

No - I swapped drives and the machine that I put the 'recovered' drive in is the one that has the problem - I think this eliminates BIOS, MB, HD connections, etc.

Thanks for asking - I'm near ready to rebuild the drive - it will take me days with all the programs and data to set up . . .

But, I've got a business trip out of the coultry that I use this computer to make presentations from.  That's why we have backups :~)

So, if you or anyone have ideas I am really open to trying most anything.

Thanks so much!

 

by: burrcmPosted on 2009-01-19 at 13:16:55ID: 23414606

Boot to XP CD. Enter recovery console and execute fixboot and fixmbr. That will clear up any mbr issues and should allow the system to boot normally. Ensure boot other device is disabled in BIOS.

Chris B

 

by: JCtheWizardPosted on 2009-01-19 at 13:22:47ID: 23414656

burrcm said: "Boot to XP CD. Enter recovery console and execute fixboot and fixmbr."

I did the 'fixmbr recovery this morning - nothing changed.  In fact, THAT has me concerned; thinking tht I may now have screwed up the MBR.  But, I'll do the 'fixboot' now and get back to the post.

Thanks again!'

 

by: JCtheWizardPosted on 2009-01-19 at 13:43:33ID: 23414852

burrcm said: "Boot to XP CD. Enter recovery console and execute fixboot and fixmbr."

OK - I did the 'fixboot' - no change . . .

 

by: dbruntonPosted on 2009-01-19 at 18:22:04ID: 23416692

So the hard disk is the problem.  Or the image when copied across.

You can test the hard disk with the UBCD http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

Download the ISO.  Make the CD and boot from it.  Find the appropriate hard disk util and test your disk.


The original 160 Gb image worked.  So if you restore that, that should get you going.

You could then consider an external application to resize the partition.

 

by: JCtheWizardPosted on 2009-01-19 at 18:35:53ID: 23416738

dbrunton said: "So the hard disk is the problem.  Or the image when copied across."

I would have to say it is something in the image - not that the image is 'bad', but that something in the boot sector of the image is corrupt.  The disk is fine - new it is.  I have UBCD - using that tool for years.

"The original 160 Gb image worked.  So if you restore that, that should get you going. You could then consider an external application to resize the partition"

All of that is done - see above - that was an Acronis issue which they cleared up (I guess that answers my original question???)  However, reinstalling the image leaves me with a non-booting drive.
Then tried the above suggestions - nothing is working yet.

Thanks for the thoughts

 

by: burrcmPosted on 2009-01-19 at 18:37:39ID: 23416741

To confirm whether the issue is disk or image, you could take a new image of the good system and see if it will load onto the problematic unit.

Chris B

 

by: PUNKYPosted on 2009-01-19 at 19:29:41ID: 23416941

 

by: JCtheWizardPosted on 2009-01-20 at 15:50:34ID: 31535818

This has been an interesting problem to fetter out.  What I've resolved is that my main question / request was answered (by Acronis) did get the image restored in a correctly sized partition.  However, that did not resolve my 'real' problem; that the OS would not boot.

So I have closed the question and awarded points to those that were in the right direction.

Thanks!

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