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Dynamic Drive Unreadable after XP Reinstall on other drive.

I have two serial-ata drives, an 80gb and a 160gb.  I keep all my important data on the 160gb, and install no programs or anything on it, just use it for storage.  I just received the drive today, replacing an old 40gb drive.  I plugged it in, and went to disk manager, and it installed the drive as drive E: as a dynamic drive.  I didn't know what a dynamic drive is, and it seemed to work.  I copied all my data over to it that I wanted to keep (around 30gb), and formatted the 80gb serial drive that had Windows XP on it, to reinstall windows, thinking I had all my important stuff saved.

Now, I have windows installed on the 80gb, and the 160 with all my important stuff on it is showing up as "Dynamic:  Unreadable" in disk management inside computer management app.  I have seen some people talking about dmdiag being useful, but I don't know how to interpret the data.  I did run it though, and here is what it told me at the end of this message.

I need to recover the information stored on this drive, but don't know the slightest thing about how.  I have no operating floppy drive, so some of the similar solutions I've seen on here requiring floppy drive disk recovery utilities I can't do.  Anyone know how to save me?

- Chad

                       ---------------------------------------------
                                      DMDIAG OUTPUT:
                       ---------------------------------------------

\Device\WMIDataDevice            (Device)
\Device\{23A62CEE-E4E2-4332-B2E9-DE5E40D59420} (Device)
\Device\{5EF563D0-8ACD-4E6F-B98E-C58713B6870F} (Device)
\Device\{5F039FEB-E1EB-4CC2-B211-FE1C92F460EA} (Device)
\Device\{75984543-DECB-438F-B8A9-725653371D15} (Device)
\Device\{A621E004-3175-4F8F-8647-4263B6A3DF6E} (Device)
\Device\{A87A61A6-B674-4626-9AA9-458C803737AA} (Device)
\Device\{B8480B82-DB90-4677-AC59-FF58FA9B9671} (Device)
\Device\{EB6D2736-5E35-49E9-94DE-F643914CCEF4} (Device)

---------- \?? ----------

\Sessions\0\DosDevices\00000000-00009b52\Global (SymbolicLink) -> \Global??

---------- ldmsize 0 ----------


           9,729 Cylinders
             255 Tracks/Cylinder
              63 Sectors/Track
             512 Bytes/Sector
              12 MediaType
     156,296,385 Sectors (total)
  80,023,749,120 Bytes (total)
      78,148,193 KB
          76,317 MB
            74.5 GB

               0 StartingOffset
  80,026,361,856 PartitionLength
               0 HiddenSectors
               0 PartitionNumber
               0 PartitionType
               0 BootIndicator
               0 RecognizedPartition
               0 RewritePartition

               4 PartitionCount
        31813180 Signature

        Starting        Partition     Hidden       Total  Partition    Partition
       Boot Recognized    Rewrite
  Offset (bytes)   Length (bytes)    Sectors     Sectors     Number   Type (HEX)
  Indicator  Partition  Partition

          32,256   80,015,491,584         63 156,280,257          0         0x07
          1          1          0
               0                0          0           0          1         0x00
          0          0          0
               0                0          0           0          2         0x00
          0          0          0
               0                0          0           0          3         0x00
          0          0          0

  80,023,749,120 Bytes (156296385 sectors) Geometric size
  80,026,361,856 Bytes (156301488 sectors) True size (measured)
  80,026,361,856 Bytes (156301488 sectors) Reported size (Partition0)
               0 Bytes (       0 sectors) missing/wasted

---------- ldmsize 1 ----------


          16,709 Cylinders
             255 Tracks/Cylinder
              63 Sectors/Track
             512 Bytes/Sector
              12 MediaType
     268,430,085 Sectors (total)
 137,436,203,520 Bytes (total)
     134,215,043 KB
         131,069 MB
           128.0 GB

               0 StartingOffset
 137,438,952,960 PartitionLength
               0 HiddenSectors
               0 PartitionNumber
               0 PartitionType
               0 BootIndicator
               0 RecognizedPartition
               0 RewritePartition

               4 PartitionCount
        7d668d11 Signature

        Starting        Partition     Hidden       Total  Partition    Partition
       Boot Recognized    Rewrite
  Offset (bytes)   Length (bytes)    Sectors     Sectors     Number   Type (HEX)
  Indicator  Partition  Partition

          32,256  160,039,240,704         63 312,576,642          0         0x42
          0          1          0
               0                0          0           0          1         0x00
          0          0          0
               0                0          0           0          2         0x00
          0          0          0
               0                0          0           0          3         0x00
          0          0          0

 137,436,203,520 Bytes (268430085 sectors) Geometric size
9,223,372,036,854,775,296 Bytes (      -1 sectors) True size (measured)
 137,438,952,960 Bytes (268435455 sectors) Reported size (Partition0)
9,223,371,899,415,822,336 Bytes (-268435456 sectors) missing/wasted

---------- kernel list ----------

Basic-info: version=21 maxspecio=512 maxio=512 maxkio=2048
Ktrans-state: dg=0.0 pendtid=0.0 state=UNKNOWN
#
# Kmem-regions:
#
id 0: (size=100)
id 1: (size=0)
#
# Disks: (cnt: 2)
#
Disk Harddisk1: dm= dgiid=0.0 darid=0.1027 dmrid=0.0
  kflag=()
  sflag=()
  vflag=(autoconfig|online)
  publen=9223372036854775807 privlen=9223372036854775807 maxiosize=2048
  type=ntdisk info=
Disk Harddisk0: dm= dgiid=0.0 darid=0.1026 dmrid=0.0
  kflag=()
  sflag=()
  vflag=(autoconfig|offline)
  publen=9223372036854775807 privlen=9223372036854775807 maxiosize=64
  type=ntdisk info=
#
# Devices: (cnt: 0)
#
#
# Groups: (cnt: 1)
#
Group NULLDG: iid=0.0 id=
  diskset=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
  configtid=0.0 logsize=0
  kflag=()
  vflag=(created|notempdb|noautoreimport|secondary)
# Group-Objects: (cnt: 0)
# End-group: NULLDG

---------- query -ht ----------

dmdiag: ERROR: No disk groups loaded

---------- query -l ----------

dmdiag: ERROR: No disk groups loaded

---------- disk header Harddisk0 ----------

diskid:  dccea51c-72d5-4d55-a32b-9bbdb4c56623
group:   name=HeliosDg0 id=5e56afd5-89e9-4222-a89e-ead8a838fcf1
flags:   private autoimport
import:  bootsig=830550400 hostid=1b77da20-c717-11d0-a5be-00a0c91db73c
diskset: id=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 new=f27ce8c7-e934-11d7-926b-806
d6172696f
version: 2.11
iosize:  512
public:  slice=0 offset=63 len=156296322
private: slice=0 offset=156299440 len=2048
update:  seqno=0.9 time=-1254694392
headers: 2047 1856
configs: count=1 len=1452
logs:    count=1 len=220
tocblks: 0
tocs:    1/2046
Defined regions:
 config   priv 000017-001468[001452]: copy=01 offset=000000 enabled
 log      priv 001469-001688[000220]: copy=01 offset=000000 enabled

---------- disk header Harddisk1 ----------

dmdiag: ERROR: scan operation failed:
        Format error in disk private region

---------- disk config Harddisk0 ----------

#Config copy 01

#Header nblocks=5808 blksize=128 hdrsize=512
#flags=0x0100 (CLEAN)
#version: 4/10
#timestamp: 127082935663281250
#dgname: HeliosDg0  dgid: 5e56afd5-89e9-4222-a89e-ead8a838fcf1
#config: tid=0.1061 nvol=2 nplex=2 nsd=2 ndm=2 nda=0
#pending: tid=0.1061 nvol=2 nplex=2 nsd=2 ndm=2 nda=0
#
#Block    4: flag=0x0000 ref=4    offset=0    frag_size=84
#Block    6: flag=0x0000 ref=6    offset=0    frag_size=48
#Block    9: flag=0x0000 ref=9    offset=0    frag_size=59
#Block   10: flag=0x0000 ref=5    offset=0    frag_size=67
#Block   11: flag=0x0000 ref=7    offset=0    frag_size=51
#Block   13: flag=0x0000 ref=12   offset=0    frag_size=51
#Block   14: flag=0x0000 ref=8    offset=0    frag_size=59
#Block   15: flag=0x0000 ref=10   offset=0    frag_size=84
#Block   16: flag=0x0000 ref=13   offset=0    frag_size=48
#
#Record    4: type=0x0251 flags=0x0000 gen_flags=0x0004 size=84
#Blocks: 4
 Volume:   Volume1 rid=0.1030 update=0.1046 mountname=E:
 info:     len=312576000 guid=7db6b06c-6213-496f-b461-a970a803a219
 type:     parttype=7 usetype=gen
 state:    state=ACTIVE
 policies: read=SELECT
 flags:    writeback

#Record    5: type=0x0845 flags=0x0000 gen_flags=0x0004 size=67
#Blocks: 10
 Group:    HeliosDg0 rid=0.1025 update=0.1061
 id:       dgid=5e56afd5-89e9-4222-a89e-ead8a838fcf1
 diskset:  id=f27ce8c7-e934-11d7-926b-806d6172696f
 copies:   nconfig=all nlog=all
 minors:   >= 0

#Record    6: type=0x0032 flags=0x0000 gen_flags=0x0004 size=48
#Blocks: 6
 Plex:     Volume1-01 rid=0.1032 update=0.1046
 type:     layout=CONCAT
 state:    state=ACTIVE
 assoc:    vol=0.1030
 flags:

#Record    7: type=0x0033 flags=0x0000 gen_flags=0x0004 size=51
#Blocks: 11
 Subdisk:  Disk1-01 rid=0.1034 updated=0.1035
 info:     disk=0.1027 offset=0 len=312576000 hidden=0
 assoc:    plex=0.1032 (column=0 offset=0)
 flags:

#Record    8: type=0x0034 flags=0x0000 gen_flags=0x0004 size=59
#Blocks: 14
 Disk:     Disk1 rid=0.1027 updated=0.1061
 assoc:    diskid=bda8925c-032c-4818-beec-7163b5df0dc3 detached
 flags:

#Record    9: type=0x0034 flags=0x0000 gen_flags=0x0004 size=59
#Blocks: 9
 Disk:     Disk2 rid=0.1048 updated=0.1056
 assoc:    diskid=dccea51c-72d5-4d55-a32b-9bbdb4c56623
 flags:

#Record   10: type=0x0251 flags=0x0000 gen_flags=0x0004 size=84
#Blocks: 15
 Volume:   Volume2 rid=0.1051 update=0.1061 mountname=C:
 info:     len=156280257 guid=23123574-e95e-11d7-9039-806d6172696f
 type:     parttype=7 usetype=gen
 state:    state=ACTIVE
 policies: read=SELECT
 flags:    writeback boot-volume system-volume retain-partition

#Record   12: type=0x0033 flags=0x0000 gen_flags=0x0004 size=51
#Blocks: 13
 Subdisk:  Disk2-01 rid=0.1055 updated=0.1056
 info:     disk=0.1048 offset=0 len=156280257 hidden=0
 assoc:    plex=0.1053 (column=0 offset=0)
 flags:

#Record   13: type=0x0032 flags=0x0000 gen_flags=0x0004 size=48
#Blocks: 16
 Plex:     Volume2-01 rid=0.1053 update=0.1061
 type:     layout=CONCAT
 state:    state=ACTIVE
 assoc:    vol=0.1051
 flags:


---------- disk config Harddisk1 ----------

dmdiag: ERROR: scan operation failed:
        Format error in disk private region

---------- disk klog Harddisk0 ----------

LOG #01
BLOCK 0: KLOG 0  :   COMMIT tid=0.0

---------- disk klog Harddisk1 ----------

dmdiag: ERROR: scan operation failed:
        Format error in disk private region

---------- disk partitions Harddisk0 ----------

Device:     Harddisk0
Size:       156301488 blocks 76319.1 Megabytes
Parameters: Signature=830550400 mediatype=12
Geometry:   geometry=9729/255/63 sectorsize=512 endingblocks=5103
 Partition1: Type=7 Extent=63,156280257 Hidden=63 Flags=boot,recognized

---------- disk partitions Harddisk1 ----------

Device:     Harddisk1
Size:       268435455 blocks 131072 Megabytes
Parameters: Signature=2103872785 mediatype=12
Geometry:   geometry=16709/255/63 sectorsize=512 endingblocks=5370
 Partition1: Type=66 Extent=63,312576642 Hidden=63 Flags=recognized

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For the differences between a dynamic disk vs a basic disk:
http://www.petri.co.il/basic_vs_dynamic_disks.htm

Due to the nature of a dynamic disk, I recommend to most people that they use basic disks. Recovery in your situation wouldn't be necessary with a basic disk.

As for dmdiag usage, see here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/existing/dmdiag-o.asp

My recommendation would be to recover the data to a different drive, then partition the drive and format it as a basic disk instead, then copy the data back.

File recovery tools:


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PC INSPECTOR
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File Recovery is a data recovery program that supports the FAT 12/16/32 and NTFS file systems. The current version 3.x replaces the previous version 2.x, which is now over 6 years old.

Restoration
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For 9x/NT/2K/XP. Restore deleted files that are no longer in the Recycle Bin!

Tool to check and undelete partition
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File Rescue 2.5
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GetDataBack for FAT
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Undelete
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File Restore
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Disk Commander
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DFSee
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As a tool to 'UNDELETE' files that have been accidentaly deleted.
This feature is implemented for HPFS and NTFS only.

MRECOVER
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Emergency Undelete
I believe this is free
For Win2000 and NT may work on XP
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Back2Life
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Hard Drive Mechanic
http://www.highergroundsoftware.com/6.html
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demo version:
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Filerecovery for Windows
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Undelete
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Fast File Recovery
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A definite must for the PC guru! It will allow the user to perform all data recovery tasks associated with disks which are not physically damaged.


File Scavenge
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Active UNERASER
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Undelete 3.0
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FinalData Data Recovery
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BadCopy Pro
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Directory Snoop
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Or Data Recovery Services

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ESS Data Recovery
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Hope this helps!

:o)

Bartender_1
The link provided supplies the dmdiag.exe utility. I meant to provide a link on using it.

These links may be more useful:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=222470
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=245725
http://www.petri.co.il/recover_fat32_and_ntfs_partitions.htm

Hope this helps!

:o)

Bartender_1
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I don't know enough about harddrive workings to use any of that stuff effectively , and the problem is not that I formatted information I wanted to keep.  The dynamic drive was working until I reinstalled windows on the boot drive, which is a physically separate drive from the one that is unreadable.  When I reinstalled winxp on that other drive, the one in question became "Unreadable".  I need to access the files that are stored on it, so I can copy them over and make the 160gb a basic drive instead of the dynamic.
The difficulty is that the information to restore the 160 GB drive is on the 40GB drive you formatted.
(If my belief of the scenario is correct:
40GB drive, used to hold your data, now has nothing
80GB drive, had Windows, re-installed windows
160GB drive, new, contains 30GB of lost data on a dynamic disk)


I believe the easiest means of recovering the data you will have will be by doing this:

Install the remaining drive back into the system.

Use one of the downloaded disk utilities mentioned above (I've had great success with PC Inspector: http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/UK/welcome.htm)
Recover your information from the 160 GB drive to your 40GB drive.
Once that is complete. Re-partition and re-format your 160 GB drive into size(s) and file systems you like. (Please make sure to make it/them basic disk(s))
Copy your information from the 40GB drive back to the 160Gb drive.

Using PC Inspector is really self explanitory. I recommend you download it and try it. You don't have to attempt to recover the info, you can just check to see if PC Inspector can "see" you information correctly. If it can, then you can recover it.

Hope this helps!

:o)

Bartender_1
I am running this pc inspector.  It is showing the physical drive in question as a 130gb.  Would the file tables and such take up 30gb or could that be the data I am needing?
Being the bonehead I am, someone from another question pointed out that windows XP cannot read drives larger than 130gb without SP1 installed.  I thought I had SP1 installed, as my windows cd says "Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 1".  Apparently not, as a trip to windows update put it in, and after reboot the drive was readable.  Told you I was a noob.  Can I get the points back since my question was answered elsewhere?
I'm glad that this is functioning for you.

I'll have to add this to my list of "things to check" ~LOL~

To get a refund of your points, post a request here:http://www-tcsn.experts-exchange.com/Community_Support/

Cheers!

:o)

Bartender_1
It would really be great if you returned to the other question and finalized the procedures used to recover the dynamic (disk) volume!
I agree.
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