Soundguymike: I assume you mean to disable it on the main server console so the setting gets dished out to each workstation? Just want to make sure I'm following your instructions correctly.
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We have a Windows SBS 2003 network in our own office. The server also runs Trend Micro Worry Free Business Security Advanced v5.1 Build 1142 with two client computers attached (one wired Windows XP Pro, one wireless Windows Vista Business). Both computers exhibit a problem where the CPU cycles reach close to 100%, and both show "System" with a PID 4 hogging the cycles (JPG picture attached). This can occur for a couple minutes up to several hours, where the computer's CPU runs high and you can hear the fans spinning as fast as they can. Both computers are free of viruses and spyware as scans from Trend, and several other antivirus and anti-spyware utilities have shown.
Troubleshooting running processes and applications has led me to remove the Trend client from one computer, then both computers. Both computers stop running high CPU cycles with Trend removed and then System PID 4 starts grabbing CPU cycles almost immediately when re-installing the Trend client. Also, there are no scheduled scans set to run when the computers login, so Trend is not running a scan when the CPU cycles are high.
Besides looking for a newer version of Trend WFBS to install, or dumping Trend and installing something else, does anyone have any suggestions on how to solve this? We have numerous clients using Trend WFBS and nobody has reported this problem. Searching the web, I find no mention of it either. I can't possibly be the only one with this issue, can I? Am I being fooled by the CPU calming down when the Trend client is removed?
The system just calmed down before I ran HijackThis. Here is the log:
Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 1:45:24 PM, on 3/14/2009
Platform: Windows Vista SP1 (WinNT 6.00.1905)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6001.18000)
Boot mode: Normal
Running processes:
C:\Windows\system32\tasken
C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.ex
C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
C:\Windows\WindowsMobile\w
C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusche
C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe
C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\robotaskbaricon.e
C:\Program Files\Skype\Phone\Skype.ex
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intuit\QuickBooks\QB
C:\Windows\System32\mobsyn
C:\Program Files\Skype\Plugin Manager\skypePM.exe
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\Client Server Security Agent\pccntmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\ieuser.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Windows\System32\mstsc.
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThi
C:\Windows\system32\Search
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\In
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\In
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\In
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\In
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\In
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\In
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\In
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\In
O1 - Hosts: ::1 localhost
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-7
O2 - BHO: RoboForm - {724d43a9-0d85-11d4-9908-0
O2 - BHO: Groove GFS Browser Helper - {72853161-30C5-4D22-B7F9-0
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9
O3 - Toolbar: &RoboForm - {724d43a0-0d85-11d4-9908-0
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Windows Mobile-based device management] %windir%\WindowsMobile\wmd
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusche
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OfficeScanNT Monitor] "C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\Client Server Security Agent\pccntmon.exe" -HideWindow
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OE] C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\Client Server Security Agent\TMAS_OE\TMAS_OEMon.e
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Sidebar] C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe /autoRun
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [RoboForm] "C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\RoboTaskBarIcon.e
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Skype] "C:\Program Files\Skype\Phone\Skype.ex
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [WindowsWelcomeCenter] rundll32.exe oobefldr.dll,ShowWelcomeCe
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - Global Startup: QuickBooks Update Agent.lnk = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intuit\QuickBooks\QB
O8 - Extra context menu item: Customize Menu - file://C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\RoboFormComCustom
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1
O8 - Extra context menu item: Fill Forms - file://C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\RoboFormComFillFo
O8 - Extra context menu item: RoboForm Toolbar - file://C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\RoboFormComShowTo
O8 - Extra context menu item: Save Forms - file://C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\RoboFormComSavePa
O9 - Extra button: Send to OneNote - {2670000A-7350-4f3c-8081-5
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: S&end to OneNote - {2670000A-7350-4f3c-8081-5
O9 - Extra button: Fill Forms - {320AF880-6646-11D3-ABEE-C
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Fill Forms - {320AF880-6646-11D3-ABEE-C
O9 - Extra button: Save - {320AF880-6646-11D3-ABEE-C
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Save Forms - {320AF880-6646-11D3-ABEE-C
O9 - Extra button: RoboForm - {724d43aa-0d85-11d4-9908-0
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: RoboForm Toolbar - {724d43aa-0d85-11d4-9908-0
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://www.autotask.com
O16 - DPF: {00134F72-5284-44F7-95A8-5
O16 - DPF: {08D75BC1-D2B5-11D1-88FC-0
O16 - DPF: {0E5F0222-96B9-11D3-8997-0
O16 - DPF: {254AA86E-5655-4518-AA87-1
O16 - DPF: {2685176A-3502-47BB-B91D-B
O16 - DPF: {2F30081A-076B-4BD4-A6B7-5
O16 - DPF: {35C3D91E-401A-4E45-88A5-F
O16 - DPF: {485D813E-EE26-4DF8-9FAF-D
O16 - DPF: {4EFA317A-8569-4788-B175-5
O16 - DPF: {69B502DF-D12F-4FD7-9892-D
O16 - DPF: {9BBB3919-F518-4D06-8209-2
O16 - DPF: {9BBB3919-F518-4D06-8209-2
O16 - DPF: {9DCD8EB7-E925-45C9-9321-8
O16 - DPF: {9DCD8EB7-E925-45C9-9321-8
O16 - DPF: {A050E865-64E3-431B-8079-F
O16 - DPF: {BAE1D8DF-0B35-47E3-A1E7-E
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-4
O16 - DPF: {E78DE03F-DC83-40DB-B590-8
O16 - DPF: {FD0B6769-6490-4A91-AA0A-B
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\T
O17 - HKLM\Software\..\Telephony
O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\T
O18 - Protocol: grooveLocalGWS - {88FED34C-F0CA-4636-A375-3
O18 - Protocol: skype4com - {FFC8B962-9B40-4DFF-9458-1
O23 - Service: Advanced Monitoring Agent - Remote Monitoring - C:\PROGRA~1\ADVANC~1\winag
O23 - Service: Advanced Monitoring AutoUpdate - Unknown owner - C:\PROGRA~1\ADVANC~1\updat
O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDev
O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponde
O23 - Service: Sprint Con App Svc (CASprint) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Sprint\Sprint SmartView\ConAppsSvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Diskeeper - Diskeeper Corporation - C:\Program Files\Diskeeper Corporation\Diskeeper\DkSe
O23 - Service: Google Update Service (gupdate1c8fa2d86440862) (gupdate1c8fa2d86440862) - Google Inc. - C:\Program Files\Google\Update\Google
O23 - Service: Trend Micro Client/Server Security Agent RealTime Scan (ntrtscan) - Trend Micro Inc. - C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\Client Server Security Agent\ntrtscan.exe
O23 - Service: Intuit QuickBooks FCS (QBFCService) - Intuit Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intuit\QuickBooks\FC
O23 - Service: SonicWall VPN Client Service (RampartSvc) - SonicWALL, Inc. - C:\Program Files\SonicWALL\SonicWALL Global VPN Client\RampartSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Sprint RcAppSvc (SprintRcAppSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Sprint\Sprint SmartView\RcAppSvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: TeamViewer 4 (TeamViewer4) - TeamViewer GmbH - C:\Program Files\TeamViewer\Version4\
O23 - Service: Trend Micro Unauthorized Change Prevention Service (TMBMServer) - Trend Micro Inc. - C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\BM\TMBMSRV.exe
O23 - Service: Trend Micro Client/Server Security Agent Listener (tmlisten) - Trend Micro Inc. - C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\Client Server Security Agent\tmlisten.exe
O23 - Service: Trend Micro Client/Server Security Agent Personal Firewall (TmPfw) - Trend Micro Inc. - C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\Client Server Security Agent\TmPfw.exe
O23 - Service: Trend Micro Client/Server Security Agent Proxy Service (TmProxy) - Trend Micro Inc. - C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\Client Server Security Agent\TmProxy.exe
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End of file - 11006 bytes
Thanks for your insight!
Jeff
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Carehart: I just noticed that about 10 minutes ago on my laptop and thought "I wonder if Diskeeper is causing a problem?". Weird. However, I have two computers (one Vista and one XP Pro) and only one of them has Diskeeper running on it (the Vista machine), however, both have the System PID 4 high cpu problem.
In my previous troubleshooting, I compared the installed software on both, pared down to the bare minimum on both, and narrowed the issue down to Trend Micro Worry Free client software. I can replicate the problem by installing or uninstalling the Trend client software 100% of the time. It would be nice to know what it is doing or what it is conflicting with. If I had Diskeeper installed on both, I would be excited by your idea, but oh well...back to the drawing board.
:)
Well, it's just that both do background operations that are nearly constantly running, it would seem. I don't run TM, but looking at its site, it seems a security solution. DK is of course a full-time disk defrag solution. Both clearly have the goal of doing their job all the time. Now, it's interesting, I'm running DK 2009, and one of its features is "InvisiTasking", so that it should not be using resources heavily while I am, but it just hasn't proven to work out as expected, obviously.
As for your challenge, I guess you want to know what specifically TM is doing that is taking resources. We'll have to leave that for others.
I replaced the Trend client with AVG Free edition on one of the computers (laptop running Vista Business on the domain). So far, no System PID 4 100% CPU usage.
What's odd to me is that with as popular as Trend is in corporate environments that I would be one of just a couple people having this issue. I'm not running really weird apps. Things like QuickBooks 2007, Microsoft Office 2007, IE7, Firefox. The only odd one I can think of that's consistent across both computers is RoboForm for password management.
Hi,
Update below registry. this will solve the issue
rgd,
abhi
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM
"Start"=dword:00000004
Abhi,
I made those registry adjustments and System (PID 4) is still using anywhere from 25% to 65% of the CPU at any given time. The computer is not using 100% of the CPU cycles, but it's using more than it should as the computer I am trying this on is not actively being used.
I'll keep monitoring to see if the CPU usage slows down.
Jeff
The way that i fixed it was actually quite simple all i had to do was to delete the database on the server and let each computer re register when it logs in. To do this
from the trendmicro note : EN-1034943
1.On the OfficeScan server, stop the OfficeScan Master Service.
2.Open the \PCCSRV\HTTPDB folder then move its contents to a temporary folder.
3.Start the OfficeScan Master Service
4.Restart the OfficeScanNT Listener service on the client, or restart the computer.
5.Open the management console then verify if the client now appears correctly.
I try to delete database but system process still gets high cpu. If I disable or uninstall client agent cpu usage goes down, but after reboot or enabled system process takes cpu again. I get the problem only in Windows 7 Business, XP or Vista works without problem.
PD:I update worry free server to last version.
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by: soundguymikePosted on 2009-03-16 at 11:35:01ID: 23900857
Just had a similar problem with trend micro officescan and our domain controller.
Try disabling the trend micro firewall.