Question

Block DNS (IP) with Linksys RV042

Asked by: leos_

We setup open dsn on our router which works quite well at blocking domains we wish to block.

Some users have figured out changing their domain name server on their pc will get around it.

I want to block a dns IP outbound with our router (Linksys RV042) .. i was able to add an access rule that stops pinging to the dns ip, but it still functions as a dns server.

The rule looks as follows:

Action: Deny
Service All Traffic[TCP&UDP/1~65535
Log: no
Source Interface: LAN
Source: Any
Destination: single : 65.39.192.130

yes, with this on ping 65.39.192.130 times out, but surfing with this as dns server works fine.

What can I do?

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2009-01-17 at 08:30:40ID24060600
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Linksys RV042

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DNS

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OpenDNS

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Block IP

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Networking Hardware Firewalls

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Network Routers

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Answers

 

by: AmirchoupaniPosted on 2009-01-17 at 12:17:46ID: 23402233

At first don't forget that there are a lot of DNS servers in the Internet (like famous 4.2.2.4) that your users can use them as their DNS server and .... So you need to Block all DNS queries.
DNS use normally UDP 53 and sometimes (for larger packets) TCP 53. So you need to block all traffic send to TCP/UDP 53 for all destinations.
In this situation (MAYBE) your users will try to use proxy servers to bypass your lock :)
Good Luck

 

by: leos_Posted on 2009-01-28 at 17:49:14ID: 23493653

Thanks, I was unaware there were so many open DNS servers ... is there a list somewhere?

Do you have any idea why my router firewall will block a ping but not dns lookup ... seems my rule blocks all ports for tcp and udp?

Proxy servers eh?  Are there a lot of them too?

Jens

 

by: leos_Posted on 2009-01-28 at 17:50:39ID: 23493663

Seems my firewall has a "Block access to HTTP Proxy Servers" ... that might close that door.

 

by: leos_Posted on 2009-01-28 at 18:03:44ID: 23493713

Seems I found my answer.  Tere are 4 RV042 default rules that cannot be trumped.


Custom rules can be created to override the RV042 default rules,  but there are four additional default rules that will be always active, and custom rule can not override the four rules.
* HTTP service from LAN side to RV042 is always allowed.
* DHCP service from LAN side is always allowed.
* DNS service from LAN side is always allowed.
* Ping service from LAN side to RV042 is always allowed.


grr.  Anyone have any ideas?

 

by: AmirchoupaniPosted on 2009-01-29 at 07:36:53ID: 23498466

If there are from LAN to your router, it doesn't mean that they can access to same services in the Internet. these rules are set so you can always use your router services. If you could disable the HTTP access to your router, you would break the path to connect to your router for config. So they must always be there.

 

by: leos_Posted on 2009-01-30 at 06:10:53ID: 23508293

With these unchangeable rules, is it possible to filter out a dns domain I don't want people using?

that is, to stop the access to dns through this router/firewall from getting out or getting back?

 

by: AmirchoupaniPosted on 2009-01-30 at 06:42:50ID: 23508610

Define a DENY rule:
Source: Internal LAN
Destination: Internet
Protocol: DNS (UDP, TCP Prot:53)
So no one can ask any DNS questions fro Internet DNSs, so they must ask your router and your router will ask from the DNS servers you have set.

 

by: leos_Posted on 2009-09-09 at 12:25:08ID: 25294654

Well - never did get it working, and now my routers toasted.

 

by: leos_Posted on 2009-09-09 at 12:26:36ID: 31535778

Thanks for your help :)

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