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windows 2003 SMTP not working because of DNS?
I've been pulling my hair for over a week here... Can anyone please help me?

first of all the IPs I'm using for www, mail, ns1 and ns2 are on 1 NIC
I have IPs from SBC and they delegated DNS and reverse DNS to me.

I have another NIC with a different IP and it's configured to use the DNS from SBC.

I am using win2003 enterprise and I configured it as my DNS server.

This is what I have for my DNS settings (the server name is jade.type3.net)

Name                  Type                        Data
(same as parent folder)      Start of Authority (SOA)      [16], jade.type3.net., hostmaster.type3.net.
(same as parent folder)      Name Server (NS)            ns1.type3.net.      
(same as parent folder)      Name Server (NS)            ns2.type3.net.
(same as parent folder)      Host (A)                  67.125.152.83
(same as parent folder)      Mail Exchanger (MX)            [10]  mail.type3.net
mail                  Host (A)                  67.125.152.83
ns1                  Host (A)                  67.125.152.81
ns2                  Host (A)                  67.125.152.82
ftp                  Alias (CNAME)                  type3.net.
www                  Alias (CNAME)                  type3.net.


nslookup shows me this:

> mail.type3.net
Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81
Name:    mail.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.83

> mail
Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81
Name:    mail.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.83

> www
Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81
Name:    type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.83
Aliases:  www.type3.net

www.type3.net
Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81
Name:    type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.83
Aliases:  www.type3.net

I can telnet to the mail server on port 25 and send a test message which I receive with Outlook Express

I can send mail out, but when I reply to it (or if I send mail directly to mikec@type3.net or mikec@mail.type3.net) from a different server on a different network I get this email sent by postmaster@jade.type3.net:

Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.type3.net
Received-From-MTA: dns;smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:16:33 -0700

Final-Recipient: rfc822;mikec@type3.net
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0

If I use Outlook Express to send myself a message from the Windows2003 server itself I get this in the Badmail folder:

Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.type3.net
Received-From-MTA: dns;jade
Arrival-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:29:22 -0700

Final-Recipient: rfc822;mikec@type3.net
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0

I don't see any errors in the DNS Event log

I did find this warning in the System log:

Event Type:      Warning
Event Source:      smtpsvc
Event Category:      None
Event ID:      4000
Date:            7/26/2004
Time:            10:20:45 PM
User:            N/A
Computer:      JADE
Description:
Message delivery to the remote domain 'mail.type3.net' failed for the following reason: Unable to deliver the message because the destination address was misconfigured as a mail loop.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks...

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Avatar of Dave_DietzDave_Dietz🇺🇸

You don't happen to have the SMTP Virtual Server configured to use itself as a smarthost do you?

If so it will send email to itself resulting in a loop.....

Dave Dietz

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No, all I have under advanced delivery is the FQDN mail.type3.net with a  max hop of 15. no masquarading domain and "Perform DNS reverse..." unchecked

Avatar of meverestmeverest🇦🇺

you need to make sure that the domain 'type3.net' is configured as a *local* domain, otherwise smtp server will try to relay it to the default MX host (ie himself)

if it is set as a local domain, then smtp server will drop it to the user mail store folder ready to be collected via pop3 server.

cheers,  Mike.

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Under Default SMTP Virtual Server I have two entries:
Local (default) domain which is mail.type3.net
Local (Custom) domain which is type3.net

Is this what you mean?

If I send mail from the box itself to mikec@type3.net it ends up in the badmail folder with the error:
Final-Recipient: rfc822;mikec@type3.net
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0

I have some messages in the drop folder but they don't get picked up.
I checked SMTP through telnet, and mail ends up in the badmail folder

nslookup tells me this:

Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81

type3.net       internet address = 67.125.152.83
type3.net       nameserver = ns1.type3.net
type3.net       nameserver = ns2.type3.net
type3.net
        primary name server = ns1.type3.net
        responsible mail addr = hostmaster.type3.net
        serial  = 2004072732
        refresh = 1800 (30 mins)
        retry   = 600 (10 mins)
        expire  = 864000 (10 days)
        default TTL = 3600 (1 hour)
type3.net       MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.type3.net
ns1.type3.net   internet address = 67.125.152.81
ns2.type3.net   internet address = 67.125.152.82
mail.type3.net  internet address = 67.125.152.83

I checked my dns at http://www.dnsreport.com also and everything is OK.

I'm going crazy :(

Avatar of meverestmeverest🇦🇺

> Under Default SMTP Virtual Server I have two entries:
> Local (default) domain which is mail.type3.net
> Local (Custom) domain which is type3.net

yes, that's what I am referring to.  did you try reversing the default and the custom?  (or remove the mail.type3.net completely)?

cheers.

I cannot remove either domain, but I can rename them, so now I have
type3.net (Default)
mail.type3.net (Custom0

I can now send mail to user@type3.net, but I can only see the messages inside the Drop folder… Neither Outlook Express nor Outlook 2000 (from a different network) pick up the mail from the Drop folder.

I changed the authentication for the Default SMTP from Basic Authentication to Integrated Windows Authentication. Will this protect me from relaying? I’m asking because with this new setting, when I try to send mail to mikec@type3.net I get this:

Message from  yahoo.com.
Unable to deliver message to the following address(es).

<mikec@type3.net>:
Connected to 67.125.152.83 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 530 5.7.3 Client was not authenticated

--- Original message follows.

Return-Path: <skarface@sbcglobal.net>
Received: from unknown (HELO onyx) (skarface@sbcglobal.net@207.213.107.129 with login)
  by smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 01:52:06 -0000
From: "Skarface" <skarface@sbcglobal.net>
To: <mikec@type3.net>
Subject: 121212
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:52:48 -0700
Message-ID: <000501c4750e$c011cb00$816bd5cf@onyx>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
      charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441

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Your MX record is configured for  jade.type3.net not for type3.net

This means that your mailserver only recieves mail addressed to mikec@jade.type3.net (if mikec exists on the server) not mikec@type3.net

You have to establish the MX record in type3.net for the address mikec@type3.net

> server ns1.type3.net
Default Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81

> set query=MX
> type3.net
Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81

type3.net       MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = type3.net
type3.net       MX preference = 30, mail exchanger = mx2.type3.net
type3.net       internet address = 67.125.152.83
mx2.type3.net   internet address = 67.125.152.81

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>> Your MX record is configured for  jade.type3.net not for type3.net

that is not true.  jade.type3.net is a valid mail exchanger hostname.

> server ns1.type3.net
Default Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81

> set query=mx
> jade.type3.net
Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81

*** ns1.type3.net can't find jade.type3.net: Non-existent domain

Oh, I must be on a different Internet than you....the Internet I am on yields this...

> server ns1.type3.net
Default Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81

> set query=mx
> jade.type3.net
Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81

*** ns1.type3.net can't find jade.type3.net: Non-existent domain
> jade.type3.net
Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81

*** ns1.type3.net can't find jade.type3.net: Non-existent domain
> set query=MX
> type3.net
Server:  ns1.type3.net
Address:  67.125.152.81

type3.net       MX preference = 30, mail exchanger = mx2.type3.net
type3.net       MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = type3.net
mx2.type3.net   internet address = 67.125.152.81
type3.net       internet address = 67.125.152.83

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Avatar of meverestmeverest🇦🇺

>> *** ns1.type3.net can't find jade.type3.net: Non-existent domain

of course - jade.type3.net is a host, not a domain.  mail exchanger is a host too, not a domain.

cheers.
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