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Cannot edit text in PDF. Cannot determine font used in PDF

Asked by: boxfetish

I am trying to edit a PDF with Acrobat 8.0 Professional and I get the following error message when I try to edit using the Touch Up Text tool:

"All or part of the selection has not available system font.  You cannot add or delete or delete the text using the currently selected font"

When I right-click on the text and select 'Properties' to find out what font is required it says the font is the original and editing for are "T1" and 14pt. but no other information is given.  

How do I determine exactly which font I need?

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Answers

 

by: BriniMavPosted on 2007-10-29 at 12:18:10ID: 20172393

I'm not sure if this will help but if you need to find out what the font is take a screenshot, (alt printscreen) use an image editor to crop the image to a word or two in that font. Then go to the url below and uplad it. The supplied web page will tell you what the font used was.

Link:
http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/

 

by: boxfetishPosted on 2007-10-29 at 12:43:43ID: 20172631

That doesn't really help.  The font looks like most other fonts.  When I upload the font to What the Font it returns 62 matches and I can't really narrow it down to any of them.  Is there some other way to edit or delete the text in the document?  I find it difficult to believe that I cannot do edit this PDF or even determine which font I need in order to obtain a license to use it.

Thanks!

 

by: BriniMavPosted on 2007-10-29 at 12:54:08ID: 20172743

You can only use the TouchUp Text tool if the font that's used for the text that you want to edit is available locally. It is likely that the font used is actually embedded in the PDF file and is not even supposed to be installed on your system (e.g. because you have not licensed it).

To find out what font is used, select the text in question with the TouchUp Text tool active, then right-click and select "Properties". This will display what font is used. You will also see if the font is embedded or not. As I said, it is very likely that the font is embedded, and not installed on your system.

Acrobat is using this mechanism/limitation because of font licensing issues: You may be allowed to embed a font in a PDF file for display/print purposes only. Once you try to edit the text, you might need a different license. Acrobat does not know anything about the license that the font came with, so it has to restrict what you can do with the touchup tool. Once you have the font installed locally, it is assumed that you do have the correct license to use it to create/modify text.

 

by: boxfetishPosted on 2007-10-29 at 13:07:58ID: 20172854

Thanks BriniMav.  Regrettably I read your exact response in another thread solution and it doesn't help me because the "Properties" only displays 'T1' as the font type and doesn't say whether or not it is embedded.  This is what it says:

Font: T1

Original Font: T1
Editing Font: T1
Permissions: No system font available

Additionally the 'Embed' and 'Subset' boxes are unchecked and grayed out.  

 

by: iMr_KiPosted on 2007-10-29 at 13:59:47ID: 20173250

I don't think your going to be able to get the font from that PDF file if it isnt in the menu boxfetish mentioned.

I think your best bet would be to convert your PDF file into a plain text document, make the changes you need, and then convert back to PDF.

Theres a lot of applications out there to do that but most of them are not free regrettably.  I was able to find a promising looking free one however on sourceforge.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdf2oo/

It basically converts your PDF into a odf (open document) which you can edit, add images etc, and then convert back to PDF.

You might wanna try it out.

 

by: iMr_KiPosted on 2007-10-29 at 14:00:17ID: 20173258

BriniMav* I mean

 

by: iMr_KiPosted on 2007-10-29 at 14:06:59ID: 20173300

On further review of the program, I dont think ti will do what you want since it doesnt actually convert to plain text, just images that you can overlay text onto.  I will try to find a better one if converting to text and then back to PDF is an acceptable solution to this problem (maybe the only one).

 

by: boxfetishPosted on 2007-10-30 at 11:00:05ID: 20179498

I am looking for software that will let me convert as well but have not found any.

 

by: iMr_KiPosted on 2007-10-30 at 12:35:59ID: 20180387

http://www.activepdf.com/products/serverproducts/docconverter/index.cfm converts but is not free - has a trial however

http://www.brothersoft.com/downloads/pdf-to-word.html lists a bunch of them.  Googling pdf to word, or pdf to text also turns up a lot of results.

From my experience these programs tend to vary a lot in quality of results, but fortunatly they do come with trials.  I'm sorry I can't give a specific reccomendation on which one is best, but maybe somone else here can make a suggestion.

 

by: boxfetishPosted on 2009-06-04 at 00:21:58ID: 31408431

Thanks for the advice.  I was trying to avoid your recommendation, but it is apparently the only option.

 

by: drl1061Posted on 2010-12-20 at 14:22:18ID: 34396964

I used a program 'pdf to word' to convert it to a MS Word file. That's the best that I could do.

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