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"Page has expired" message

Asked by: jasimon9

We have one user out of thousands who is reporting the following error when using our web site. She has IE 6.0:
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Warning: Page has Expired
The page you requested was created using information you submitted in a form. This page is no longer available. As a security precaution, Internet Explorer does not automatically resubmit your information for you.

To resubmit your information and view this Web page, click the Refresh button.
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The MS KB has an article 183763, but it does not help.

The error is not a show stopper, just darn inconvenient.

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by: sunray_2003Posted on 2004-01-21 at 13:36:48ID: 10168951

Ask her to enable cookies

 

by: jasimon9Posted on 2004-01-21 at 16:01:43ID: 10169993

This was the first thing we cecked, and cookies are enabled. It might be worth double checking all her settings. Are they all in the IE Privacy settings, or is there somewhere else that might be the problem?

 

by: sunray_2003Posted on 2004-01-21 at 16:53:13ID: 10170261

Check that she doesnot run any firewall or pop-up blocker

 Donot set your security settings too high.. Check this
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/security/settings.asp

go to tools --> internet options --> advanced and restore defaults

 

by: COBOLdinosaurPosted on 2004-01-21 at 17:03:10ID: 10170307

Check the caching options.  If the page is not cached, it is no loger available.

Cd&

 

by: DoppyNLPosted on 2004-01-21 at 22:35:03ID: 10171611

this is normal behaviour of IE, all IE versions do it!

She posted a form using the method "POST", and then proceded to the next page.
After that she pushed the back-button in her browser, wich warned her that that page was requested by filling in a form.
If she wants to see the page again, she would have to submit the data again, as this can be a lot of data, and it can be a problem when submitting values twice, there is a warning.

You should be able to reproduce this "error" on any IE browser!

what to do about it?
- improve your navigation so that users won't have to use the back-button
- use the "GET" method for the form (if possible), then there is no problem at all.
- hope that users don't use the back-button to often.

 

by: jasimon9Posted on 2004-01-22 at 12:39:13ID: 10177632

No, it is not normal, as none of our thousands of other users have this problem.

I will be following up the with user with a more detailed check of the following:

1. Confirm that cookies are enabled.
2. Firewall issues.
3. Popup blocker issues.
4. Page caching issues.

 

by: DoppyNLPosted on 2004-01-22 at 23:40:56ID: 10182118

the error message you gave appears to be a `normal` error message that I see come by regularly.

You say only one user out of thousends has this problem. Well, its a good possibility that more users have the problem, they just aren't reporting it!

Other good info to get from the user is what actions he took just before he got the error message.
What pages did he request, and on what links/buttons did he click.
That way, you should be able to reproduce the error.

 

by: jasimon9Posted on 2004-01-25 at 10:28:48ID: 10196362

In fact, the page expires if you wait long enough. Apparently this user is getting the problem immediately before the normal timeout should occur.

How do you set the timeout length?

 

by: DoppyNLPosted on 2004-01-25 at 12:58:12ID: 10197101

Original error message:
"The page you requested was created using information you submitted in a form."

conclusion:
user filled in a form
user submitted the form and got a page back
user clicked on a link to the next page
user clicks the back-button of his browser and sees this error message.

--> This is NORMAL!!
try it out yourself.
Only extra condition is that the form must use POST as method.

You cannot avoid this by setting timeouts or stuff like that.

 

by: jasimon9Posted on 2004-01-25 at 22:44:15ID: 10199261

How about I give you the procedure to reproduce what I am describing, and see what you get. On my system, I only get the timeout message if I wait quite a while.

1. Go to www.rephunter.net

2. At the top left, just under the login button there is an entry field. Enter anything you like that describes a "target market." I like to use "fiber optic" or "fiber". Click Go.

3. On the Sales Rep Search Result page, click any ID button on the left.

4. On the next page, you will see a Return button at the bottom of the form.

5. To demonstrate the timeout or lack thereof, from this page, either click the Return button, or press your back button.

"Normal" behavior is to immediately go back to the previous page. On my system, if I wait a while (not sure the timing), I will ge the timeout message, but not if I do not wait.

Our user reports that she gets the timeout right away.

 

by: fletchsodPosted on 2004-02-20 at 06:52:32ID: 10412735

It's been almost a month now and no response here.  I checked it out with IE and it work fine, so I use the 'Live HTTP Header' extension with Mozilla to check it out and it showed that your webserver send out the HTTP Header "Cache-Control: " to control the browser cache.  If it is specify as "no-cache" then there will alway be an expiration page after the POST method for IE.  If it is specify as "private" then IE user won't see the expiration page which is what you're looking for.  So far, you had it figured out somehow because the Live HTTP Header showed that your webserver are actively using the "Cache-Control: private" so I take it that your problem is solved.  So, it is time to resovle this as sovled-fixed and close it down.

FletchSOD

 

by: jasimon9Posted on 2004-07-10 at 11:31:58ID: 11520227

In the last response (the Accepted Answer) it is stated that "cache-control: private" is the correct usage. However in MS KB 183763 it is stated that in fact there is a known MS bug in certain versions of IE, and that the workaround is to use

   <%Response.CacheControl="Public"%>

So I looked up the PAQ and am adding this information.

BTW, it is still a problem for some of our users, but I am going to experiment with MS-provided workaround.

 

by: dtburrPosted on 2004-08-20 at 11:58:19ID: 11854780

How about this trick - Delete Temporary Internet Files

I was pulling my hair out as well and this solved every known instance of this.

 

by: jasimon9Posted on 2004-08-20 at 14:33:34ID: 11856236

We have users with other issues fixed by clearing the browser cache (aka "delete temporary internet files"). However, I don't think we ever tried it for THIS issue.

Worth a try. Hard to test since we have to wait until we have a live connection with a user who is having the problem.

 

by: dtburrPosted on 2004-08-22 at 09:40:12ID: 11864618

You mean the REAL term is "clearing the browser cache"? Thanks!!!!

Anyway, other symptions that *can* occur when it gets too full is wacky session handling (session.abandon does not work and you also cannot change session variables) and a the inability to view raw page HTML.

I was surprised that there was such a simple answer to the problem. Others' assertions that "this is the way it is supposed to work" don't really hold water since in almost every case, you can navigate 'BACK' to POST results. Or maybe they are right but Microsoft never know that this was how it was supposed to work.

Anyway, good luck. Hope it works.

 

by: bonyronyPosted on 2004-12-16 at 10:58:08ID: 12843925

Here's the fix for this:

Go to tools/internet options - clcik the advanced tab, UNCHECK the box "do not save encrypted pages to disk"

 

by: jasimon9Posted on 2004-12-16 at 11:27:35ID: 12844220

Thanks for your contribution.

This question was a "reopen" of the previous question http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Browser_Issues/Q_21053888.html. In that question, I referred to MS KB 183763, in which Microsoft provides the workaround you are suggesting (do not save encrypted pages to disk").

Unfortunately, as stated in my original question, as well as in the original article, that workaround did not work.

So it is a mystery.

On the plus side, this user stopped complaining about the problem. Go figure.

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