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Two websites using SSL running on the same webserver, can share one port?

Asked by: rgford

We host two websites with IIS 6.0 for staff to use as a portal. They both run on port 80 but use different host headers to differentiate.

We originally ran them using non-standard ports but found that so many places blocked everything but standard port access (80, 21, 443) so used host headers instead.

Now both sites need to use SSL. I enabled 443 through the firewall and installed certificate etc for the first site and it works fine.

However, what if the other site needs to use SSL as well....so will I have to make it run another port (e.g. 444) and link to that from the site? IIS doesn't seem to allow the use of host headers in the SSL identifying section.

Thanks in advance

George

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2005-12-20 at 10:25:51ID21670918
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by: andynwellsPosted on 2005-12-20 at 11:47:25ID: 15521248

It looks like this website has detailed information about installation of SSL with IIS.
http://www.petri.co.il/configure_ssl_on_your_website_with_iis.htm

The relevant part for you would be:
"Note: SSL can only listen once on port 443, requiring you to either select a different SSL port for each SSL protected website you're about to host on the server, or, even better, use a different static IP for each site, and share port 443 amongst them."

 

by: razorwoods1Posted on 2005-12-20 at 12:48:56ID: 15521692

Changing the port will not resolve this.

You can't use named based resolution ( host headers ) with SSL, it's in how SSL works.  It must be tied to a static IP address.  If you only have 1 IP address then you can't do what you want.  If you have more than 1 IP address then just setup the next virtual host, tie it to that next IP address and setup SSL just as you did with the first one.

 

by: ccarnsPosted on 2005-12-20 at 13:00:46ID: 15521772

Razorwood is correct - the only way to do it is to use another static IP address.

 

by: mrichmonPosted on 2005-12-20 at 13:13:16ID: 15521864

You may also want to consider looking into Shared SSL, but that is usually not an option for individual sites, but more used by hosting companies.

Quick reference:
http://www.ourshop.com/resources/shared-ssl.html

 

by: rgfordPosted on 2005-12-20 at 13:13:42ID: 15521868

Thanks for the quick response - new IP batch just ordered. Lets see if BT can actually deliver when it comes to spending money....

 

by: rgfordPosted on 2005-12-20 at 13:16:49ID: 15521898

So when we get the new Ip addresses...how will I do it then without having a seperate webserver....? IIS will surely still tell me I am already using SSL on port 443

 

by: mrichmonPosted on 2005-12-20 at 13:25:45ID: 15521970

First you have to assign the second address to the network card

My Network Places --> Properties
then on the network card --> Properties --> TCP/IP --> Properties --> Advanced --> IP Settings
Add new IP address

Next you add to the site

IIS Admin--> Websites --> Properties of website --> IP Address

 

by: razorwoods1Posted on 2005-12-20 at 14:00:06ID: 15522246

Each static IP address can have unique ports bound to it, so you can run SSL on port 443 on every single static (different) IP address you have on the machine.  You just can't bind the same port twice on the same IP, that's all.

You just go to IIS and setup the new site with one of the new IP's and then repeat the same process you did with the first one for SSL.

On the shared SSL issue.  If you are going to run this on lots of sites in this same manner... then you may want to pickup a wildcard SSL cert.  It basically certs *.yourdomain.com , You can get these for about $400 per year at xramp.com.  Then you just setup DNS to point each 3rd level domain to the unique IP on the server, and all site have the same cert

 

by: shakoush2001Posted on 2005-12-20 at 14:39:23ID: 15522507

you cant use one ports for two apps on the same IP...not with SSL nor with anything else

 

by: cstejereanPosted on 2005-12-20 at 17:35:11ID: 15523480

" you cant use one ports for two apps on the same IP...not with SSL nor with anything else"

That is correct, but when running IIS without SSL you can install multiple sites on the same IP and port number because IIS will look at the header to determine which one to serve. Similar thing with Virtual Servers in apache.

 

by: rgfordPosted on 2005-12-21 at 04:55:11ID: 15525793

Many thanks for all your advice. Points slipt between razorwoods and mrichmon

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