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Website Alignment troubleshooting in IE and Firefox

Asked by: shawnzer

I have website that I have created using a template based online program for a real estate company. The program lets me do some custom content. I have created the The menu buttons and left side custom.

The problem im having is the menu aligns to the picture above it fine in IE, but in Firefox its stick out to the right a little bit past the picture.

the website:
http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/

Attached is the external CSS code.

Below is the code for that menu area only.

Thanks for any suggestions

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
 <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
 <link rel="stylesheet" media="all" type="text/css" href="http://shawnsdigitalworld.com/helenoliverirealty/menu_style.css" />
 
</head>
<body>
 
<table width="100%" height="100%" border="0"  align="left" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="696969" >
<tr valign="top">
    <td  scope="row"><div align="left"><img src="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/shared/cache/ThemeResource/539766/Photo/25-160x480.img?_Version=633873904386324327" alt="Header" width="160" height="125" align="bottom"  longdesc="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/shared/cache/ThemeResource/539766/Photo/20-160x480.img?_Version=633869839625755350"/></div></td>
  <tr>
    <td scope="row"><div align="left"><div class="menu bubplastic vertical red">
   <ul>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com"><span class="menu_ar">Home</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/REO__BPO_Services/page_2253105.html"><span class="menu_ar">Reo / BPO Services</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Our_Featured_Listings/page_2267290.html"><span class="menu_ar">Our Featured Listings</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Foreclosures_Nationwide/page_2269601.html"><span class="menu_ar">Foreclosures Nationwide</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Steals_-n-_Deals/page_2267231.html"><span class="menu_ar">Steals -n- Deals</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/For_Buyers/page_2267305.html"><span class="menu_ar">For Buyers</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Buying_Tips/page_2267221.html"><span class="menu_ar">Buying Tips</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Calculators/page_2267306.html"><span class="menu_ar">Calculators</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Resources/page_2267307.html"><span class="menu_ar">Resources</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Tips_and_Tricks/page_2267308.html"><span class="menu_ar">Tips and Tricks</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Our_Blog/page_2265693.html"><span class="menu_ar">Our Blog</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/About_Helen/page_2252289.html"><span class="menu_ar">About Helen</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Keller_Williams_Realty/page_2252221.html"><span class="menu_ar">Keller Williams Realty</span></a></span></li>
     <li><span class="menu_r"><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Contact_Us/page_2265372.html"><span class="menu_ar">Contact us</span></a></span></li>
     </ul>
   <br class="clearit" />
</div></div></td>
  </tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

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Asked On: 2009-09-01 at 08:10:28ID24698214
Tags: Web Design
,; Code
,; Html
,; Css
Topics: Miscellaneous Web Development
,; Hypertext Markup Language (HTML)
,; Firefox Web Browser
Participating Experts: 3
Points: 250
Comments: 13

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by: rbudjPosted on 2009-09-01 at 08:52:27ID: 25232838

Everything looks the same in ff3 and ie8. Except however for the rollover which seems to be broken in IE8. Since older browsers are still heavily used, you might want to change your doc type from strict to transitional:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

This may help.

by: shawnzerPosted on 2009-09-01 at 09:38:41ID: 25233340

Ok tried that. The menu still sticks out to the right in Firefox

by: rbudjPosted on 2009-09-01 at 09:53:45ID: 25233498

can you post screenshotof the menu sticking out? In both IE8 and FF3 the menu buttons both stick out to right past the image above it by at least an inch.

by: shawnzerPosted on 2009-09-01 at 10:28:24ID: 25233823

Im using IE7 so could be the reason its working for me.

ie7.jpg
- 183 KB
IE7 SS of it correct
firefox3.jpg
- 190 KB
Firefox SS of it sticking out

by: rbudjPosted on 2009-09-01 at 11:07:09ID: 25234189

your width for menu_ar is set to 100% but the photo has a set width of 160px. Give the menu_ar class a 160px width and see what that does.

by: rbudjPosted on 2009-09-01 at 11:26:52ID: 25234432

also, your css does not validate. Go to http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ and validate. Fix the errors. Also, your math is incorrect for your block elements. Remember that for example, if you have a div with a set width of 100px and you add a 2px border to both the right and left sides then you have to subtract 4px from the 100px and change the set width of the dive to 96px. Your math in dealing with width, borders, margins, and padding must equal out. Otherwise you will end up with what you have which is mis-alignment.

by: shawnzerPosted on 2009-09-01 at 11:29:40ID: 25234475

ok i made the change from 100% to 160px. It looked like moved about 3-5px to left in Firefox Nothing changed in IE. Ill look at the other suggestions now.

by: shawnzerPosted on 2009-09-01 at 11:47:47ID: 25234668

Unfortunately I cant fix most of those errors, as those are all part of the template I cant change. Ill look over what I can change which really is only the menu and header.

by: shawnzerPosted on 2009-09-02 at 08:58:05ID: 25242416

Still no luck. I think its something im missing in the css file for the menu

by: jason1178Posted on 2009-09-05 at 13:10:23ID: 25267548

Hi shawnzer,

I think I can see the issue. It might be happening because you are mixing spans, tables and divs together and FF is adding borders together. Here is the menu code:

<td scope="row"><div align="left"><div class="menu bubplastic vertical red">
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/REO__BPO_Services/page_2253105.html">Reo / BPO Services</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Our_Featured_Listings/page_2267290.html">Our Featured Listings</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Foreclosures_Nationwide/page_2269601.html">Foreclosures Nationwide</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Steals_-n-_Deals/page_2267231.html">Steals -n- Deals</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/For_Buyers/page_2267305.html">For Buyers</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Buying_Tips/page_2267221.html">Buying Tips</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Calculators/page_2267306.html">Calculators</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Resources/page_2267307.html">Resources</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Tips_and_Tricks/page_2267308.html">Tips and Tricks</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Our_Blog/page_2265693.html">Our Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/About_Helen/page_2252289.html">About Helen</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Keller_Williams_Realty/page_2252221.html">Keller Williams Realty</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.illinoisforeclosuredeals.com/Contact_Us/page_2265372.html">Contact us</a></li>
</ul>
 
</div></div></td>

I would consider going through all of the classes and tag styles that reference the above and adding border-collapse: collapse to the styles. That might reduce the excess padding seen in FireFox.

Also, remove padding-right from:

.bubplastic.vertical ul li a span.menu_ar

and see if that improves things.

by: KravimirPosted on 2009-09-06 at 18:12:10ID: 25272246

Give ".bubplastic.vertical ul li a span.menu_ar" width:140px and give ".bubplastic.vertical ul li a" width:145px

For the record, IE8 displays it the same as Firefox. I don't see why IE7 is hiding the overflow.

by: shawnzerPosted on 2009-09-07 at 06:04:28ID: 31625686

Thank you that was exactly the problem

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