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Totally confused.....mySQL? SQL? or Access???

Asked by: Kouras

Hi, guys
I'm lost in all these types of databases.....I'm currently using Access 2000. I found out just now that mySQL  and SQL is much better...Does that mean that it's time for me to learn one of them and when we need to use them instead  Access 2000? When connecting to Access thru ASP we need the actual file .mdb located somewhere. But when I saw connection method fo mySQL:
<%
strConnection = "Driver={MySQL};server=mysql.domain.com;uid=test;pwd=pass;database=domain_com_data1;"
 
Set adoDataConn = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
adoDataConn.Open strConnection
.........
%>
I'm thinking is mySQL doesn't require any .mdb files? what is domain_com_data1???As I understood to create table like:

field1     field2
2              6
3              7
4              8

in mySQL , we have to write script something like CREATE tablename....and so on. Am I right? Sorry , if I'm asking too many questions, but I'm very confused on all this. If anyone could walk me thru basic explanation, I would be very appreciated.

Thanx in advance.
Kouras.

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2003-04-21 at 09:13:35ID20591374
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Answers

 

by: KenAdneyPosted on 2003-04-21 at 09:45:38ID: 8367548

Here's my .02...

MySQL has the following advantages:
a) cost (free)
b) platform independence (unix or IIS)
c) ability to handle large datasets (Access bogs down around 10,000 records)
d) distributed load (can be run on a separate server, distributing the load makes things faster)

Access has the following advantages:
a) you know it
b) it has easy queries and reports built into it

Everything else is the same.  You're still issuing SQL commands either to access or add to the data (SELECT * FROM), or to create new tables (CREATE xxxx).

Personally, I use Access a lot because it's fast & easy & I don't have to install any components on the server.  If I were starting over, I'd be using PHP/MySQL.

 

by: webwomanPosted on 2003-04-21 at 10:39:45ID: 8367885

If your server supports ASP/Access, and you're comfortable with Access, and you're not running a huge, commercial site, Access will be just fine.

If you want/need to learn MySQL/PHP, you certainly could. If your server doesn't support ASP/Access, you'll need to.

But either will work.

 

by: luke_davisPosted on 2003-04-21 at 11:18:03ID: 8368223

MySQL and SQL Server also run true dbengine that can track transactions, provide rollbacks, data recovery and reapplication of transactions since last backup, and is alot more stable.  Access, you restore a file.  Only data you have is since your last backup, and that of what you've coded to retain by writing to a "secondary log or transaction log".

Simply Put, SQL, MySQL are corporate/Enterprise solutions.  Access is for mom & pa application.  Where losing transactions since last successful backup is acceptable, and query peformance will not exceede 5 queries per second.

Just more 2cents.  Keep gettin them and you might get rich

 

by: KourasPosted on 2003-04-21 at 12:30:15ID: 8368677

Let's make things clear, so mySQL( and SQL) require a .mdb file created in Access, it's just different language to make queries to it, right?
The other thing I wanted to ask, is it a big difference  to say like wow that was quick  in speed comparing Access 2000 and mySQL?

Kouras.

 

by: luke_davisPosted on 2003-04-21 at 12:46:33ID: 8368788

MySQL and SQL are thier own applications.  Like Access they are a database Application.  Unlike Access they are much more robust.  They DO NOT USE a .MDB File.

MySQL and MS SQL Server are thier own applications running a seperate process all the time on a system.  MS Access is just a db file.  Within the MySQL and MS SQL, there are methods to create new databases.  These databases end up associating down to one or many sub files that make up the database.  The most simplistic database in MS SQL would consist of 2 files.  A MDF and LDF.  The MDF is the data file (like an MDB) where the LDF is a transaction log.  (Has no association in access).  The transaction log consists of ANY change to the database since it's last backup.  This gives you the ability to restore a database back to the point of failure without losing any data.

The SQL issued to these different applications is VERY SIMILAR.  Subtle changes in available functions, are about it.  The basic construct for retreving, updating, removing, or adding data is about the same.  More complex functions such as creating tables and views, stored procedures, all of these have subtle differences in the options available, as well as syntax.

From a peformance stand point, once you get above 10,000 records in a table you will see a "WOW that's faster." Access simply does not have the horse power to process large volumes of data.  In MySQL or SQL Server, your could be joining millions of records together and still end up getting your results in less than 3 seconds (In Access we would be talking MINUTES).  Additionally if you have more than 5 people interacting with your database at one time, your might want to start looking at upgrading.

Again, it boils down to an Enterprise solution vs a Ma & Pa solution.  Access works great with small amounts of data.  When your business grows beyond a small amount, and performance for an optomized query is taking more than 3 seconds to execute, your probably really needing to look at an enterprise DB, especially if you have multiple users.  MySQL, SQL server, DB2, Oracle; all of these are considered to be Corporate or enterprise solutions.  The last 2 more so due to thier duration in the market and stability.   MySQL is a nice free DB engine, but is missing some of the bells and whistles you get when you pay for one from ORACLE, MSFT(SQL SERVER), or IBM(DB2).

Granted there are other DB makers out there.  Pervasive, and SyBase are a couple, but I've listed the major players.

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