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How do I layout divs that will expand to take up the available veritcal space.

Asked by: bakum

How do I layout divs that will expand to take up the available veritcal space.  I have a master table with two columns.  In the left column are two divs, on on top of the other, the right column is one div.  The information contained in each Div is variable and can differ quite a bit in height, however, what I want is for the divs to expand vertically to the bottom of the table row, so they balance visually.  Currently I've been doing it with javascript to very poor effect.  It often doesn't really work I suspect due to the differing box models causing my javascript calculations of container heights to be different in different browsers.   but I'm not sure.  What'd I'd prefer is some magical CSS way to just have the stupid divs expand as they should in the first place.  Why is this so hard?  It shouldn't be this hard.  Should it?

Thanks!

-mb

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2007-02-19 at 12:42:50ID22399471
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Cascading Style Sheets (CSS)

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Answers

 

by: mark-bPosted on 2007-02-19 at 13:08:40ID: 18566110

Note sure exactly what you are looking for... but maybe something like this?:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en">
 <head>
  <style>
   .expand td {
    position: relative;
    height:100%;
    margin:0;
    padding:0;
   }
   
   .expand div {
    border: 1px solid red;
   }
  </style>
 </head>
 <body>
  <table class='expand' border='1' height="500px" width="100%">
   <tbody>
   <tr>
    <td width="50%">
     <div style='height:50%;'>a</div>
     <div style='height:50%;'>b</div>
    </td>
    <td>
     <div style='height:100%;'>c</div>
    </td>
   </tr>
   </tbody>
  </table>
 </body>
</html>

-Mark

 

by: bakumPosted on 2007-02-19 at 13:42:45ID: 18566489

it's close.

problems: in IE7 the height:100% doesn't seem to do anything.  it works in FF but IE7 it does nothing.

 

by: mark-bPosted on 2007-02-19 at 14:28:38ID: 18566853

Hmm.  I can't repeat your stated problem in my IE7.

 

by: livewirewebsolutionsPosted on 2007-02-20 at 06:49:51ID: 18570795

If you have a div container with all three divs inside, you can do the following:

#divContainer { overflow: auto; background-color: ??;}

The div overflow will fill 100% of largest div.  If you know which coloumn will be highest ( the majority of the time) set the bg-color of the divContainer = to the highest div.

Hope this helps!

 

by: bakumPosted on 2007-02-20 at 09:58:26ID: 18572404

Mark-b,  sorry, I should have been more clear.  I was using my own code instead of your code.  My code is essentially the same thing just slightly more stuff going on.  I'll markup your code and see what happens.   I did notice in my code my doctype is different:
<!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

I don't know much about doctypes.  Could that me the culprit?

LWWS, thanks for the suggestion.  I'll give it a try.

 

by: mark-bPosted on 2007-02-20 at 10:18:44ID: 18572545

Yes.  That's the culprit.   If you have to use Transitional, I might be able to get something to work with that too.   Let me know...

Thanks,

-Mark

 

by: bakumPosted on 2007-02-20 at 12:48:09ID: 18573834

I'll change it over and we'll see how it flys.  Some of the code is inherited and it's old (<b> tags) but I've been on a mission to update it all to CSS.  Maybe a good way to see how successful I've been.

 

by: bakumPosted on 2007-02-21 at 15:00:31ID: 18583077

mark-b,

well, no luck.  But I did have luck using your code and replicating my problem.  I modified slightly to simulate data within the divs and it mucks things up exactly like I'm seing things mucked up.  Note I did not want to put heights on the two left divs because theose heights are variable, and their respective proportions of the whole are therefore different, depending on the data.  I can't say topLeft height=30% because it's not always 30%, sometimes it's 20% which is a bid difference and would leave a lot of empty space, which is undesireable.

Any thoughts?  It seems this shouldn't be so bloody hard, but for some reason it is.  



<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en">
 <head>
  <style>
   .expand td {
    position: relative;
    height:100%;
    margin:0;
    padding:0;
      border:2px solid green;  
   }
   
  .expand div {
    margin-bottom:5px;
    padding:5px;
      border:2px solid green;        
   }
   
   .expand div#topLeft {
      background-color:orange;
   }

   .expand div#bottomLeft {
      background-color:yellow;
   }

   .expand div#main {
      height:100%;  
      background-color:#c6c6c6;
      color:white;
   }
   
   .expand div#main table#subMain{
      background-color:#fff;
      color:black;
   }  

  </style>
 </head>
 <body>
  <table class='expand' border='1' width="100%">
   <tbody>
   <tr>
    <td id="one" valign="top">
     <div id="topLeft">0<br />1<br />2<br />3<br />4<br />5<br />6<br />7<br />8<br />0<br /></div>
     <div id="bottomLeft">0<br />1<br />2<br />3<br />4<br />5<br />6<br />7<br />8<br />0<br />0<br />1<br />2<br />3<br />4<br />5<br />6<br />7<br />8<br />0<br /></div>
    </td>
    <td id="two" valign="top">
     <div id="main">Hello, Table
        <table id="subMain">
         <tr>
          <td>hullo, Div!
            </td>
         </tr>
        </table>
      
       </div>
    </td>
   </tr>
   </tbody>
  </table>
 </body>
</html>

 

by: mark-bPosted on 2007-02-22 at 05:00:23ID: 18586984

The height of the table will be dictated by either the content in the left two divs, or the one on the right, unless specific height and overflows are specified.

Are you using this table for layout because you need to, or because you are trying to solve this problem with it?  Can you go with straight CSS without the table?  

What is the ideal you are looking for?  I'm confused!  :)

 

by: bakumPosted on 2007-02-22 at 10:10:42ID: 18589913

the divs, actually, are being used only so I can implement nifty corners.  The table layout is pretty integral to the site.  I've done a lot of searching and it seems just what you said is true: The height of the table will be dictated by either the content in the left two divs, or the one on the right, unless specific height and overflows are specified.

And it seems there's no CSS way around it.  At least not that I've found.  THere's even a pseudo name for the issue: div columns.  So I guess I'm not crazy.  I did find a decent Javascript hack (that was like one I tried but it's a better implementation).  

Anyway, I appreciate your time.  Thanks for trying to help!

 

by: mark-bPosted on 2007-02-22 at 10:21:26ID: 18589996

No problem.  Good luck!

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