Question

IE7 VS Firefox Float Problem expanding html margin

Asked by: MemoUribe

Ok guys I'm having a problem with IE browser regarding on a CSS layout with a couple of float columns.

When I render it in FF it looks fine but when I check it on IE it creates a righ margin on the html section.

when I separate the code to see what div is making this margin, I found out that the two body columns (which are floated btw) are the ones making the bottom scrollbar appear...

I have tried the hasLayout approach, and other ones listed here with no luck, I need you guys to help me why could this be happening.

Thanks in advance for your wisdom!
Memo.

HTML:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
	<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" />
	<title>Executive Communication Centres | Contact</title>
	<link href="/ece/css/general.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
	<link href="/ece/navigation/header/header.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
</head>
<body>
<?PhP include_once $_SERVER['DCOUMENT_ROOT'] . "navigation/header/header.php"; ?>
<div id="completeWrapper">
	<div id="sideColumn">
		<div id="redBox"><img src="/ece/images/redBox2.gif"  alt="" /></div>
		<div id="mapBox"><img src="/ece/images/map.gif"  alt="" /></div>
		<div id="greenBox"><img src="/ece/images/greenBox.gif"  alt="" /></div>
		<div id="imagesBox">
			<table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" >
				<tr>
					<td align="left"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><img src="/ece/images/firstSmallImage.jpg"  style="border: 0;" alt="" /></a></td>
					<td align="right"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><img src="/ece/images/secondSmallImage.jpg"  style="border: 0;" alt="" /></a></td>
				</tr>
				<tr>
					<td align="left"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><img src="/ece/images/thirdSmallImage.jpg"  style="border: 0;" alt="" /></a></td>
					<td align="right"><a href="javascript:void(0);"><img src="/ece/images/fourthSmallImage.jpg"  style="border: 0;" alt="" /></a></td>
				</tr>
			</table>
		</div>
		<div id="buttonBox"><a href="/ece/contact.php?loc=london"><img src="/ece/images/inquireButton.gif"  alt="Inquire About This Centre" style="right:0px; border: 0;" /></a></div>
	</div>
	<div id="mainColumn">
		<div id="headerMain">
			<img src="/ece/images/headerImage2.jpg"  alt="" id="headerImages" />
			<p>BUNHILL ROW - LONDON: Situated adjacent to the Barbican, this new, glass fronted building offers top quality internal fittings and very high specification offices.</p>
			<p style="font-size:.8em;">Hotels, Restaurants and a wide variety of shops are easlyaccessible as are the major landmarks of the City of London. Moorgate Tube and Railway stations are a few hundred yards away.</p>
		</div>
		<div id="subColumns">
			<div class="columnBackground" id="firstBackground"></div>
			<div class="columnBackground" id="secondBackground"></div>
			<div id="leftColumn">
				<h3>about this location</h3>
				<p>3 Bunhill Row is situated adjacent to the Barbican, specifiaclly between Old Street to the North and Chiswell to the South.</p>
				<p>Communal areas include a 2,500 sq ft reception and glas external 'wall climber' lift.</p>
				<p>All offices are fitted with demountable partitioning and have individually controlled air conditioning.</p>
				<p>Boardrooms and Meeting Rooms start from &pound;15.00 per hour.</p>
				<p>3 Bunhill Row its only a few moments walk from Moorgate underground and overland railway stations.</p>
				<p>Public car parking is available in a number of locations nearby</p>
			</div>
			<div id="rightColumn">
				<h3>center highlights</h3>
				<ul>
					<li>Fully furnished office space from 100 square ft.</li>
					<li>Flexible Licences</li>
					<li>On-Site Car Parking&#42;</li>
					<li>Bureau Services</li>
					<li>Conference Facilities</li>
					<li>IT, Data and Voice Comunications</li>
					<li>CCTV Surveilance</li>
					<li>24 Hour Access</li>
					<li>Air Conditioning</li>
					<li>Free Chauffeur Service&#42;</li>
					<li>Choice of Furnishings</li>
					<li>Informal Lounge Facilities</li>
					<li>Cofee Bar</li>
				</ul>
				<span id="exceptions">&#42;Except London</span>
			</div>
			<div style="clear:both;"></div>
		</div>
	</div>
	<div id="clearer" style="clear: both;" />
</div>
<div id="footer" style="margin-top: 10px;"/>
</body>
</html>
 
CSS:
body,html
{
	width: 100%;
	height: 100%;
	
	margin:0px;
	padding:0px;
	
	font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif;
	color: #8f8f8f;	
	font-size: 1em;
	
	position: relative;
}
 
#completeWrapper
{
	position: relative;
	
	margin: 15px auto;
	padding: 0px;
	
	width: 928px;
}
 
#completeWrapper #sideColumn
{
	position: relative;
	
	margin: 0px;
	padding:0px;
	
	width:272px;
	
	float:left;	
}
 
#completeWrapper #sideColumn img
{
	margin-bottom: 10px;	
}
 
#completeWrapper #mainColumn
{
	position: relative;
	
	margin:0px;
	padding: 0px;
	
	margin-left: 10px;
	
	float: left;
}
 
#completeWrapper #mainColumn #headerMain
{
	position: relative;
	
	margin:0px;
	margin-bottom: 1em;
	
	padding: 0px;
	
	width: 640px;
}
 
#completeWrapper #mainColumn #headerMain #headerImages
{
	padding: 3px;
	
	border:1px solid #b2b2b2;
}
 
#completeWrapper #mainColumn #subColumns
{
	position: relative;
	
	font-size: .9em;
	
	margin:0px;
	padding: 0px;
}
 
#completeWrapper #mainColumn #subColumns #firstBackground
{	
	top:0px;
	left:0px;
	
	width:317px;
}
 
#completeWrapper #mainColumn #subColumns #secondBackground
{
	width: 315px;
	
	top:0px;
	left:0px;
	
	margin-left: 327px;
}
 
/*This one is setting some right margin at html level */
#completeWrapper #mainColumn #subColumns #leftColumn
{
	width: 307px;
	position: relative;
	
	margin:0;
	margin-left: 5px;
	padding:0;
	
	float:left;
}
 
/*This one is also setting some right margin at html level */
#completeWrapper #mainColumn #subColumns #rightColumn
{
	width: 305px;
	position: relative;
	
	margin:0;
        margin-left: 20px;
	padding:0;
	
	float:left;
}
 
#completeWrapper #mainColumn #subColumns h3
{
	color:#309fcd	
}
 
#exceptions
{
	font-size: .65em;
	margin-left: 4em;
}
 
#completeWrapper #mainColumn #subColumns li
{
	list-style-image: url('/ece/images/bullet.gif');
}
 
.columnBackground
{
	position:absolute;
	
	height: 100%;
	
	border:1px solid #b2b2b2;
}

                                  
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2009-08-18 at 17:03:37ID24663324
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IE FF CSS float html margin

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Extensible HTML (XHTML)

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Answers

 

by: Yavor_01126Posted on 2009-08-19 at 06:42:06ID: 25132470

Hi!

Since you don't have a test page so I can test on I would guess by IE you meen IE6 and you probably need to set overflow hidden on the completeWrapper so that the stuff in it is actually contained.

Tell me if it works.

If you make a test page so that we can actually see it... this will help a lot.

 

by: MemoUribePosted on 2009-08-19 at 08:05:01ID: 25133534

You can check it out @ http://www.abcnmedia.com/ece/

 

by: Yavor_01126Posted on 2009-08-19 at 08:12:47ID: 25133637

Oh I see now.

Its because of the BOLD.

Bold text is usually bigger in space than regular. You might want to try adjusting it in a way like this.

On the hover try adding the following:
margin: 0 -1px;

This should make up for the size of the bold text.
If it still shakes a bit try adding -2px.

If the problem is still there please refresh the page so I can see it again.

 

by: Yavor_01126Posted on 2009-08-19 at 08:20:57ID: 25133756

Here is a more precise fix of the code.

You have a slight weird behavior when hovering. You can hover over the link but actually not being able to click it because your actually hovering over the menu.

Adding display: block on the a will make it behave as a div element actually making the div container a bit obsolete but I will let it stay anyway.

But keep in mind that using display: block on the A will result in A to behave as a DIV so you can merge the DIV.menu code and A code together skiping the DIV in the HTML code.

#headerBackground #headerWrapper #headerMenu .menu:hover
{
	// empty
}
 
#headerBackground #headerWrapper #headerMenu a
{
        display: block;
	cursor: pointer;
	text-decoration: none;
	color: #8f8f8f;
}
 
#headerBackground #headerWrapper #headerMenu a:hover
{
	color: #309FCD;
        font-weight: bold;
        margin: 0 -1px; 
}

                                              
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by: MemoUribePosted on 2009-08-19 at 08:21:22ID: 25133763

I solve it using the html selector and blocking away any attempt to scroll to the right... but I think that it's not a complete solution... I want to know why this happened. if is bad coding, or a IE bug...

the thing I've noticed is that the problem resides on the two columns on the main body... if I remove one or both the right space dissapears... (display:none;). When I replace them again the right space appears but seems to be on the html, body space rather than any div...

I don't know if this is maybe triggered by a Float inside a Float Bug... I've never seen it before...

I validate the CSS and HTML and it passes both.

html
{
    overflow-x:hidden;
}

                                              
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by: Yavor_01126Posted on 2009-08-19 at 08:25:24ID: 25133813

MemoUribe sorry!

I got carried away and forgot what the question was all about.
Any way you can check my tips for the menu.

 

by: KravimirPosted on 2009-08-19 at 13:54:55ID: 25137239

Triggering hasLayout on "#subColumns" seems to fix it.  I don't see a particular cause for this though.

By the way, the page has some issues in IE6. One of them is because IE6 doesn't support position:fixed.

 

by: MemoUribePosted on 2009-08-19 at 14:00:14ID: 25137288

How can I trigger the hasLayout??? I tried using the CSS zoom:1; but it doesn't seems to work...

I'm designing for IE7 and up and FF 1.0 and up...

 

by: KravimirPosted on 2009-08-19 at 15:35:47ID: 25138031

I prefer using min-height:1px instead of zoom:1 to trigger hasLayout in IE7.

Many corporations still use IE6. You might find this interesting: http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/06/state_of_the_br_1.html

For the record, supporting IE6 is a big pain in the neck, but while it still has a significant market share, it's hard to not support it.

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