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Resolution Problem

Asked by: amjad

Hi,
I have a website that is designed by FrontPage, I made frames in the website, now, the problem that if the visitor computer's resolution made to 600*800 , then he will see the website in good shape , but if he has resolution more than this, the website will appear in rough shape, i.e. spaces will appear between the pictures.

How can I solve this problem ?


Amjad

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Answers

 

by: avnerPosted on 2003-04-20 at 05:29:54ID: 8362290

You can solve it by better designing the page.
Use % instead of absolute positioning.
There are few other methods you need to take in considiration when developing for different resolutions.

You can centrelize the whole page (put inside <CENTER> tag) and then the blank area around the page will grow depending on the resolution but will not effect the page contents.


Here is a good aritcale for the different methods you can look into :

http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/33/index0a.html?tw=design

Another good articale is :
http://www.thedevweb.com/art_view.asp?aID=24

 

by: Stoffel85Posted on 2003-04-20 at 08:15:18ID: 8362665

You can also use an Iframe,

It has some advantages:  users won't see on wich page they are because the url will always be the url of the Iframe

 

by: dorwardPosted on 2003-04-20 at 09:28:26ID: 8362865

Since when is users not knowing where they are an /advantage/?

Frames have a lot of problems: http://david.us-lot.org/frames.php

How to design for any resolution: http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?AnySizeDesign

 

by: COBOLdinosaurPosted on 2003-04-20 at 10:28:19ID: 8363024

Actually you have several problems.  Let's deal twith the biggest one first.  Frontpage!  If you want to devel quality websites learn to work directly with the code.  If you use a tool like front page you are limited to its capabilities.

Frontpage in general generates code that does not always follow standrds, creates cross-broser, and cross-resolutions problems.  It is alright for prototyping; to get an ide of how you want the general look and feel to be, but then do the detail in the code youself.  Front page will not give flexible, efficient pages.

Now as for the resolution problem.  Frontpage has probably done the layout using tables.  That is a mis-use of tables.  They are for tabular data, not layout. To resolve cross-resolution problems cleanly and within standards you should be using CSS.

Finally using frames brings all kinds of problems, which is why very few new sites get designed with them any more.  Theremany much better options for almost any problem that some think can be solved with frames.

Now all of that being said.  What we really need is to see the problem for ourselves.  So you need to post a link to the page or the code, so we can take a look at it.

Cd&

 

by: jayyu2kPosted on 2003-04-20 at 22:03:58ID: 8364902

hi, amjad

 Have u designed the page Using tables? ?? By using % as the expert above suggested u dont really solve the problem always. Using exact table width aligns the images properly.

By the way, first show us ur page, we shall decide what is the best method to design it.

Jayanth Sharma

 

by: tonydspaniardPosted on 2003-04-21 at 07:59:43ID: 8366972

i am with jayyu2k... he is right... if you wish to have the same size for your page even if the visitor is using a smaller or bigger resolution use absolute values in your tables, frames, etc... so there is no 'wrapping' to resize anything... the space between the images is because the table is using % instead of absolute values...

and as jayyu2k says... show us your page.. then it is better to decide between methods...

 

by: Stanley83Posted on 2003-04-21 at 09:01:11ID: 8367321

<html>
<head></head>
<body>
<table width="100%" border="1">
   <tr><td>&nbsp;</td></tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

this example will show u that under whatever circumstances, the table will fill the width of the user's screen. :)

 

by: Stanley83Posted on 2003-04-21 at 09:04:28ID: 8367347

<html>
<head></head>
<body>
<table width="100%" border="1">
   <tr><td>&nbsp;</td></tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

this example will show u that under whatever circumstances, the table will fill the width of the user's screen. :)

 

by: KourasPosted on 2003-04-21 at 09:29:26ID: 8367476

Hi,
Firts of all your question is a general question, not a particular....There are two ways to solve it.
 First one and the worse one is to set on your homepage  resolution detector( can be done with javascript), which will detect the users screen resolution and redirect to appropriate page for it....In this case you will need double your work, I mean basically you'll need to have one "website" for 800x600 and another 1024x768 resolution. In my opinion no one use this method.
 Another way is to do like COBOLdinosaur  said , you need to work with script yourself, not only using Frontpage to design a website for "all needs". In your case the best for you is to post your script or point to a link where the page with your script located. Then we can rebuild it.... and maybe you will learn something from it.

Cheers,
Kouras.

 

by: COBOLdinosaurPosted on 2003-04-21 at 09:48:14ID: 8367566

amjad,

You posted the exact same question three weeks ago and so far you have completely ignored the 8 experts ofering you help in it.  We are now up to 8 experts in this one as well.  Are you playing a game?  Are you having a problem understanding the concept of how a Question and Answer site works?  Are you intentionally being rude to those who are offering you assistance?

You find that 500 point questions can be ignored just as easily as 20 point questions once the experts have determined that they are wasting their time helping you.  It does not matter if you pay for this service or not, you have a responsibility to participate in your questions, and we are volunteers who do not have to help those not willing to follow the Communitee guidelines.

Please post a response and indicate what you intentions are with the previous duplicate question, and how you want to proceed with this one.

Cd&

 

by: tomkinitePosted on 2003-04-21 at 19:38:33ID: 8370689

I think I've seen this dorwood guy comment roughly on frames about 3 times now.

There isn't anything terribly wrong with frames, my friend. It all depends on the coder. Please do not read the trash on the Internet. Last "anti-frames" page I read was by some extremist anti-Netscape, anti-Frames advocate that didn't know HTML from DHTML. All this, and he HAD iframes on his site. Go figure.

 

by: COBOLdinosaurPosted on 2003-04-22 at 06:52:06ID: 8373316

tomkinite,

If you have a problem with the position taken by another expert, then deal with the technical aspects of it.  Your comment borders on instigating a flame, and adds nothing to the thread.  Dorward is one of the top-experts in this topic area and has the respect of other top-experts whether they agree with his positions or not.  

In the future, if you want to discuss something off topic post it in the lounge where it belongs; so that it is not necessary to ask admin to discuss your behaviour.

Cd&

 

by: kasandraPosted on 2003-04-22 at 20:31:39ID: 8377692

Everything suggested here is _exactly_ what was posted in the earlier question Cd& refered to.

I guess Amjad was hoping for a "magic" solution to make a non-fluid site fluid without having to do any work, rather than 15 experts saying "you might want to rethink your design"..?

Oh well, another name for my blacklist..

 

by: ukn3sPosted on 2003-04-23 at 12:06:20ID: 8382716

If you make the page one table and set the table width to 100%, there shouldn't be a problem.

 

by: substandPosted on 2003-04-23 at 23:22:14ID: 8386432

stop using frontpage and you'll fix it... front page looks good only in your settings, this is the problem of frontpage, and why normal web developers like myself still have a job.

If frontpage worked, no one would have a job in webdevelopment.

 

by: gam3r_3xtr3m3Posted on 2003-04-25 at 06:23:58ID: 8395077

Well, I think everybody is right! Set your tables to % measurement or set table widths to 762px so it will have perfect window alignment. You can also use CSS relative positionings.
You can, if you like, "tell" the user that it is more appropriate to use a 800X600 screen resolution by means of JavaScript.
Here's the example:

<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
var requiredWidth = "800"
var requiredHeight = "600"
if (screen.width<requiredWidth||screen.height<requiredHeight){
alert("This webpage is bested viewed with screen resolution "+requiredWidth+"*"+requiredHeight+" or above. Your current resolution is "+screen.width+"*"+screen.height+". If possible, please change the resolution!")
//-->
</script>

 

by: gam3r_3xtr3m3Posted on 2003-04-25 at 06:27:19ID: 8395100

Error,

the line should be:

if (screen.width<requiredWidth||screen.height<requiredHeight||screen.width>requiredWidth||screen.height>requiredHeight){

or

if(screen.width != requiredWidth||screen.height != requiredHeight){

 

by: kasandraPosted on 2003-04-27 at 02:25:16ID: 8404234

I don't know if there is any point in adding comments to this question - Amjad has not added any further comments to either of his 2 identical questions on this matter after asking them...

 

by: COBOLdinosaurPosted on 2003-04-27 at 10:02:39ID: 8405910

Amjad,

You now have 7 500-point questions open, and it is apparent that you have no regard or appreciation for any of the people trying to help you.  Your rude behaviour will not be tolerated any longer. If you do not respond and start resolving your questions within the next several hours, I will reguest admin to suspend you account until you undertake to stop your abusive behaviour.

Cd&

 

by: Stanley83Posted on 2003-04-27 at 11:19:59ID: 8406180

haha...cool down COBOLdinosaur..i think Amjad must be busy at the moment or he's out of the country..We can just wait patiently for him then.. :)

You might really scare people off this website..haha

 

by: COBOLdinosaurPosted on 2003-04-27 at 11:31:47ID: 8406219

>>>We can just wait patiently for him then

Experts have been waiting patiently for amjad for a month.  They were on the site yesterday and posted a new question.  They have been on the site today and posted a new question.

If they get scared of the site or decide to leave on their own; what is the loss?  An abusive user who treats expert rudely and treats EE like a new group dumping ground.  I go to great lengths to accomodate user who use the site the way it is intended and follow guidelines; I hav no patience for those who don't.

Cd&

 

by: COBOLdinosaurPosted on 2003-05-01 at 07:41:26ID: 8435905

amjad,

With that C grade you basically confirm what was already becoming obvious, any expert who offers you help in the future is a fool for wasting their time on children, who are not capable of normal communications in a professional environment.


<bookmark>
   <profile>
      <userid> amjad </userid>
      <behaviour> unprofessional</behaviour>
      <behaviour> abusive</behaviour>
      <future_action> offer no help</future_action>
   </profile>
   <if_I_could>
      <action> close account</action>
   </if_I_could>
</bookmark>

Cd&

 

by: SpideyModPosted on 2003-05-01 at 16:06:20ID: 8439272

The C has been changed to a B.  I can only go up one grade at the moment.

SpideyMod
Community Support Moderator @Experts Exchange

 

by: COBOLdinosaurPosted on 2003-05-01 at 16:38:58ID: 8439452

If life was fair every expert who has tried to help would get duplicate points charged to the users account... but if life was fair I would have sunk that 40 footer for an eagle. ;^)

Thanks for doing what you can Spidey.

Cd&

 

by: SpideyModPosted on 2003-05-01 at 16:50:58ID: 8439500

CD&,
That was you on the green putting for 30 minutes ahead of me?  How do you write 3 digits in those tiny scorecard boxes?

My pleasure.

 

by: COBOLdinosaurPosted on 2003-05-01 at 16:53:54ID: 8439514

Do the scoring Netminder style:  Nothing counts until you are on the green. <G>

Cd&

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