Question

Extending column height in a table to (at least) browser window height

Asked by: fulscher

Hello experts

I'm in the process of putting a site together with the following layout:

+---------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Logo    | Header Text                                                               HeaderImage|
| Logo    +---------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Logo    |                                                                                                      |
|            |                                                                                                      |
| Menu   |                                         BODY                                                     |
| Menu   |                                                                                                      |
| Menu   |                                                                                                      |
|            |                                                                                                      |
+---------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

I would like the logo/menu column to cover the entire height of the browser window. Any way to accomplish this without reverting to JavaScript?
( HTML code and CSS used so far can be found here: http:Q_21508813.html )

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2005-07-29 at 03:18:45ID21508817
Tags

height

,

table

,

html

,

extend

Topic

Hypertext Markup Language (HTML)

Participating Experts
4
Points
500
Comments
8

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. Tables and CSS - heights
    I have an element that has content in it that scrolls: #content1{ overflow:auto; color:#CCCCCC; width:600px; height:300px; display:block; margin:0; padding:0; } And i want to not have the scrollbar but have the content and bg color drop down to extend t he full heigh...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: dorwardPosted on 2005-07-29 at 05:20:48ID: 14553886

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/

... although I don't see where a table comes into it. Perhaps you should read http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Tableless_layouts too.

 

by: flow79Posted on 2005-07-29 at 05:38:17ID: 14553994

as dorward suggested, a move to a tableless layout would be advisable.

in the case of the code I am posting, you first have to set the container elements (html and body) to 100% height, and then your div can stretch to 100% height inside them.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
 "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

<html>
<head>
<title>Untitled</title>

<style type="text/css">
<!--
html,body { height: 100%; }

#menu {
                  width: 30px;
                  height: 100%;
                  border: 1px solid #000000;
                  float: left;
                  }
                  
#header {
                        height: 50px;
                        border: 1px solid #000000;
                        }
                        
#content {
                         height: 500px;
                         border: 1px solid #000000;
                         }                                          
-->
</style>

</head>
<body>
    <div id="menu">MENU</div>
    <div id="header">HEADER</div>
    <div id="content">CONTENT</div>
</body>
</html>

 

by: dorwardPosted on 2005-07-29 at 05:42:35ID: 14554021

The trouble with setting the height of elements to pixel heights (like #content { height: 500px }) and of setting the height of the menu (and body, and html) to 100% (the height of the view port), is that when the content is longer than that, it will spill out with less then happy results.

Faux Columns is really the only way to achieve this. (At least if you want it to work in IE).

 

by: fulscherPosted on 2005-07-29 at 07:09:28ID: 14554698

flow79, dorward - thank you both. I've tried the combination of your solutions - works quite well. It looks though I'm doing something wrong; even with the repeated background, it wan't display correctly in IE. Am I overlooking something?

Here's the code I have now:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1-transitional.dtd" >
<html>
<head>
  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
  <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="_code/screen.css" media="screen,projection" />
  <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="_code/print.css" media="print" />
 
  <style type="text/css">
  html,body { height: 100%; }
 
  #xmenu {
    width: 162px;
    height: 100%;
    background-color:#000000;
    float: left;
    background-image:url(_images/stripe.gif);
    background-position:top left;
    background-repeat:repeat-y;
  }
                 
  #xheader {
    height: 40px;
    border: 0px;
    background-color:#CCCCCC;
  }
                     
  #xcontent {
   }                                  
  </style>

</head>
<body>
    <div id="xmenu">
      <a href="index.php"><img src="_images/logoani.gif" width="162" height="114" border="0" /></a>
      <?php echo $omenu->make_menu_text($selmnu, $mnuconfig, TRUE, array(TRUE, TRUE)); ?>
      </div>
    <div id="xheader">
      <img src="_images/headtopright.gif" width="324" height="40" align="right" style="float:right "/>
    </div>
    <div id="xcontent">
    </div>
</body>
</html>
 

 

by: leendePosted on 2005-07-29 at 21:58:11ID: 14560215

Do you mean you want to get rid of the margin (of about 10 pixels) that exists around all sides of the page between the table and the edges of the browser window?

If so, all you need to do is get rid of the page's automatic margins.

To do this, add "body {margin:0 0 0 0;}" (omit quotation marks) to your CSS. If you only want to eliminate the top and bottom margins, use "body {margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;}" instead.

 

by: RoonaanPosted on 2005-07-30 at 00:19:24ID: 14560453

leende. you can just use body {margin:0;}  instead of margin:0 0 0 0 ;

-r-

 

by: fulscherPosted on 2005-07-30 at 01:26:35ID: 14560588

leende - the problem is that with a short content field, the browser decides to increase the height of my header field - even if I specify a specific TD height for the header.
I know that browsers are free to do so but I just don't need it.

I'm going to try your suggestion with using a DIV inside of the header TD (see http:Q_21508813.html).

J.

 

by: fulscherPosted on 2005-07-30 at 02:03:55ID: 14560715

flow79, doorward - I wasn't able to display the page properly using pure CSS. Two more bugs came up:

IE6 adds some spaces between columns under certain circumstances. There seems to be no way to solve this, at least I've not found one.

In addition, IE6 would not extend my navigation column to the full length of the page - it would extend it to the window height but not further, even if the actual contents was longer than the window height. The solution - extending the column height to several thousand pixels - is just not acceptable.

So, we're back to tables. With the help of leende, I've got it finally going.

Thank you all for the effort.

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...