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Homepage Background Image Problem

Hi everyone,

I just did a little bit of renovating on my web site but I used Frontpage 2000 instead of the Netscape Composer this time.  When I uploaded all my pages on to my ISP server I browsed through my site on Explorer 5.5 and everything was fine.  I normally use Netscape 4.77 not Explorer, so when I saw my site on Netscape, it was horrific!

I use a lot of tables on my site and for some reason on Netscape each call has its own background ... a smaller version of the whole background on the whole page and it looks very odd!  I thought that maybe I selected an option on Frontpage so that each cell would have its own background, but I did not select it so now I am baffled.

Please take a look at one of my pages by clicking on the link below.  Please look at it first on Explorer and then Netscape, so you can see the obvious difference:

http://members.home.net/ivojr/BC70.html

Please let me know what I should do to change this problem.  Thank you very much.
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Aha.. Netscape does that. It doesn't like table backgrounds. Cell backgrounds are OK, but table ones start over in EVERY cell. Major nuisance.

You really do need to check in BOTH browsers. And if possible, in multiple versions (4.0, 4.75. 6 in NN and 5.0, 5.5 in IE -- and on Mac and PC).

If you don't have enough equipment to do that yourself (and lots of us don't), you can always ask around... and there are sites (of course, I don't remember the URL) where you can check your pages in various browser emulators.
Netscape has major issues with tables.  They really need to be perfect.  And if you are dealing with bckground images then you need to have them better than perfect.  The way around it is as follows:

Have a single cell table surrounding all your current tables with the background you want and then each nested table needs a background of nothing.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" background="yourimage.gif">
  <tr>
    <td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" background="">
      <tr>
        <td>blah</td>
        <td>blah</td>
      </tr>
      <tr>
        <td>blah</td>
        <td>blah</td>
      </tr>
    </table>
    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" background="">
      <tr>
        <td>blah</td>
        <td>blah</td>
      </tr>
      <tr>
        <td>blah</td>
        <td>blah</td>
      </tr>
    </table></td>
  </tr>
</table>

A quick look at your code and it looks like all you need to add is background="" to each nested table.  And do not forget to make sure every table, tr, and td is closed properly and in order.

I also strongly reccommend against FP.  Yes you can configure it to write code better for Netscape than it does by default but even with that the code is still crap.  In any browser!

I'll take the points for this one if you so desire but if my comment is good enough for the answer can I have any one of the places on the url you have shown instead?
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Thank you for the comments.  I will try to see what I can do with the advice from all of you.  I have done lots of editting before and never run into a problem like this.  Strange!

Thanks again.
lol -- very funny dij8!
It's alright for you ClassyLinks, you already live in Canada.  It is where I want to be.  So if I can get a sponsored job and a place like one of them I'll be set. ;-)
Please tell me you don't think we all live in places like that!  ;-)

If you get one of those places, I'm coming to bunk with you!
I visited Halifax at Christmas (my first of hopefully many visits to Canada) and even the average houses were pretty nice.  At least the ones I saw.  Nice in comparison to New Zealand anyway.  And in comparison to London!  Everything is made of grey bricks and everyone shares walls (man I want out of here).

Here's the deal timsenco, accept one of the comments as an answer, ClassyLinks, offer me a job, and then we can all stay at the four bedroom (a spare room for guests) place in Osler Street, Vancouver. :-)
LOL!  If I had one to offer, you'd be the first to know.

8-)
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</recommendation>

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