hreinart
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Strange hardware reset by using nt2000 not with nt4
hi,
i'm fighting with a strange situation.
my pc (intel p2, asus board) runs nt4 and nt2000.
when using nt4 no crashes at all occurs.
when using nt2000 the pc will crash about 5 minutes after i logged on.
a pure hardware reset is performed. i see the black (no blue) screen with the bios information, the pc will boot again.
the only thing i changed is to upgrade the memory from 256 to 512 mb.
i tested also now to use only 256 mb wich i used before the upgrade, but no success.
the 256 mb ram (2 x 128 mb) are 100 mhz, the additional
256 module is 133 mhz.
my dealer things that the faster ram should work together with the lower.
i also tried to changed the bios setup to make the ram work slower, but no success.
question:
any idea what happens here?
does win2000 use the ram differently that nt4?
what should i do to solve the problem?
i put this question in the nt2000 and hardware area with each 50 points. if you solve the question collect both points.
thanks
hreinart
i'm fighting with a strange situation.
my pc (intel p2, asus board) runs nt4 and nt2000.
when using nt4 no crashes at all occurs.
when using nt2000 the pc will crash about 5 minutes after i logged on.
a pure hardware reset is performed. i see the black (no blue) screen with the bios information, the pc will boot again.
the only thing i changed is to upgrade the memory from 256 to 512 mb.
i tested also now to use only 256 mb wich i used before the upgrade, but no success.
the 256 mb ram (2 x 128 mb) are 100 mhz, the additional
256 module is 133 mhz.
my dealer things that the faster ram should work together with the lower.
i also tried to changed the bios setup to make the ram work slower, but no success.
question:
any idea what happens here?
does win2000 use the ram differently that nt4?
what should i do to solve the problem?
i put this question in the nt2000 and hardware area with each 50 points. if you solve the question collect both points.
thanks
hreinart
Are you saying that you switched back to the old chip and it is still crashing?
ASKER
yes i switched back and still crashing.
strange also that since about 8 hours the pc runs with nt4 fine.
i tried one boot with nt2000, and received a crash.
if the motherboad supports 113 mhz, i don't know.
shouldn't it be because of nt4 is working?
where do i see the parity and timing?
????
hreinart
strange also that since about 8 hours the pc runs with nt4 fine.
i tried one boot with nt2000, and received a crash.
if the motherboad supports 113 mhz, i don't know.
shouldn't it be because of nt4 is working?
where do i see the parity and timing?
????
hreinart
ASKER
hi,
does anyone know what would happen if i start the sp2 instalation and during this my pc would reboot.
can i restart my nt2000?
any suggestions?
does anyone know what would happen if i start the sp2 instalation and during this my pc would reboot.
can i restart my nt2000?
any suggestions?
Don't bother with SP2 at this point....I think you need to update your BIOS. What motherboard are you using? Asus P2B? See this page http://www.asus.com/products/motherboard/bios_slot1.html for BIOS updates for various Asus Slot-1 motherboards. Check back if you're not sure what model you have or which file to download.
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ASKER
hi,
i checked the bios version.
when booting up i see:
P2B-S ACPI Rev. 1012
Award Plug&Play Bios v.1.0A
03/03/00 i440BX-P2B-S-00
i check the asus page ypou mentioned and found this:
P2B-S (ATX, onboard SCSI)
- BIOS Upgrade and Road Map :
bx2s1013.zip
P2B-S BIOS Ver. 1013. 07/27/2001
Update 7890 SCSI firmware to Ver.3.0.
bx2s1012.zip
P2B-S BIOS Ver. 1012. 05/04/2000
Use Adaptec 7890 SCSI BIOS to revision 2.20.
Add microcode update.
if i understood this right, i already use the 2nd latest version.
the new vewrsion just upgrades the aha controller.
then i looked for the update tool. i asume that i need pflash.exe, but it's not downloadable.
where would i get this?
makes it sense to upgrade?
thanks
hreinart
i checked the bios version.
when booting up i see:
P2B-S ACPI Rev. 1012
Award Plug&Play Bios v.1.0A
03/03/00 i440BX-P2B-S-00
i check the asus page ypou mentioned and found this:
P2B-S (ATX, onboard SCSI)
- BIOS Upgrade and Road Map :
bx2s1013.zip
P2B-S BIOS Ver. 1013. 07/27/2001
Update 7890 SCSI firmware to Ver.3.0.
bx2s1012.zip
P2B-S BIOS Ver. 1012. 05/04/2000
Use Adaptec 7890 SCSI BIOS to revision 2.20.
Add microcode update.
if i understood this right, i already use the 2nd latest version.
the new vewrsion just upgrades the aha controller.
then i looked for the update tool. i asume that i need pflash.exe, but it's not downloadable.
where would i get this?
makes it sense to upgrade?
thanks
hreinart
By all means do the update. The pflash.exe file in included in the zip file you download.
Remember, you will need to repair/rebuild the hardware abstraction layer by starting a fresh install, and then choose to repair the existing installation.
Remember, you will need to repair/rebuild the hardware abstraction layer by starting a fresh install, and then choose to repair the existing installation.
ASKER
hi,
there is only an *.awd file inside the zip file, nothing elese.
there is only an *.awd file inside the zip file, nothing elese.
There should be a popup window on the Asus site when you try to download the file. Or look elsewhere in their downloads section for the flash program.
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You beat me to it Dog!
ASKER
hi,
sorry i tried to download it from link, but no file found, even not anywhere lese on this web site.
sorry i tried to download it from link, but no file found, even not anywhere lese on this web site.
ASKER
asus recommend to use pflash, is aflash still ok?
HR, try this page:
http://www.asus.com/products/motherboard/bios_tools.html
Which motherboard are you using?
http://www.asus.com/products/motherboard/bios_tools.html
Which motherboard are you using?
ASKER
P2B-S ACPI Rev. 1012
Award Plug&Play Bios v.1.0A
03/03/00 i440BX-P2B-S-00
this is what i see on the screen when i boot up
Award Plug&Play Bios v.1.0A
03/03/00 i440BX-P2B-S-00
this is what i see on the screen when i boot up
HR,
This txt file will explain the BIOS updates for your motherboard.
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/slot1/440bx/p2b-s/index.txt
This is the most recent BIOS update for your motherboard.
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/slot1/440bx/p2b-s/bx2s1013.zip
This is the aflash utility that will work with your motherboard.
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/flash/aflash.exe
This will explain how to flash the BIOS to the most recent:
http://www.asus.com/Products/Motherboard/flash.html
This txt file will explain the BIOS updates for your motherboard.
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/slot1/440bx/p2b-s/index.txt
This is the most recent BIOS update for your motherboard.
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/slot1/440bx/p2b-s/bx2s1013.zip
This is the aflash utility that will work with your motherboard.
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/flash/aflash.exe
This will explain how to flash the BIOS to the most recent:
http://www.asus.com/Products/Motherboard/flash.html
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ASKER
hi,
sorry for beeing late here!
i checked the bios with the vendor of the pc.
it should be ok.
i fear by replacing it to get more problems than i already have.
the system worked before, so the bios should be ok, or?
sorry for beeing late here!
i checked the bios with the vendor of the pc.
it should be ok.
i fear by replacing it to get more problems than i already have.
the system worked before, so the bios should be ok, or?
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hi,
i don't want to test this answer to see if it works, but want to close the question.
i still fear getting more problems than i now have.
i don't want to test this answer to see if it works, but want to close the question.
i still fear getting more problems than i now have.
I don't know why you would want to not try a solution that will most likely resolve your problem...but, its your choice of course. The problem is probably related to ACPI implementation which ASUS had issues with on this board. The BIOS update will fix the ACPI problems and probably resolve the issue.
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