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Need dos network bootdisk..

I'd like to have a boot disk that does the following:

1. Boot from diskette
2. Deletes all the partitions on the disk(if any exists)
3. Create a (8-10 gig ) C: partition and format it.
4. Dispaying a menu with a couple of choices of what OS to install (Win2k server, advanced server etc. Win2K server being the default choice and will run if no user intervention in say.... 10 seconds)
4. Connect through ftp to a file server and download the files I need to install Win2K server (I've placed them in a dir called "setup/server" and "setup/adv_server" under a spesific user)
5. Execute winnt from the downloaded directory.

Any help is welcome. I'm willing to "pay" as much points as required to get a working solution to this scenario as soon as possible.

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I'd like to clarify a couple of things...

Under 1. I need a (as simple as possible) TCP/IP bootdisk
wich I can specify a static IP address, and capable of launching an ftp program.

2. and 3. I've found a program called afdisk wich might be capable of doing what I need http://www.aefdisk.com/

4. and 5. have no Idea how to do this.

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This question looks vaguely familiar...

Why do you want to launch an ftp program?

How about having a dos boot disk with your network driver on it and mapping the remote drive over the network.

What type of network card do you use? I might be able to help.

J
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jools

I need to be using ftp as the files ar locaded on a Linux fileserver, with nothing but ftp enabled (no Samba, NFS shares..)

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ITsheresomewhere,

Thnaks - where can I see such a "summary of old questions" when I log in, so I won't forget about them the next time?
And how do I delete a question if I've had no replies or the replies are not what I needed?
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about the nic - I'm currently using a 3Com card 3c905-tx (using the el90x.dos file...but I'd need a pointer on how to change/add a new nic to the diskette)
roglan

Click on your profile name at the top right corner then when page changes scroll down a bit and all your asked questions appear with the current status.  PAQ = closed
Others are open in one form or another.

To hava a question deleted, go to the question, state the reason for the question to be deleted as a comment.

Now click on the URL address to copy it to your clip board.
Click on the Community Support link on the left hand side of the page.

In Community Support post a question with title - please delete this question.  In the body paste in the url of the question to be deleted from your clipboard.  Give a reason supporting request.  A Moderator will review and handle closing action or request additional info.  Then your all done.

It may seem lengthy, but after you've done it once, it is simple to handle.

Glad to have been of help and thank you for your attention to these items.

ITsy
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I'm deleting this question because I've found an alternate approach. Thanks!
Listening as well.

Netminder
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I will not delete this question based on your comment.  Please provide the alternate solution.  Also, let's talk about your other questions.

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I want to delete this question because I haven't been provided with an acceptable solution to my query.  I've found another way to approach this problem and wouldn't want to waste anyones time on keeping it open.

The only expert that replied seem to accept this fact....shouldn't you?
Seeing as this Q is currently on the operating table being resuscitated and keeping in mind that this is a knowlegde sharing community, how did you get round this problem?

Cheers

J
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My whole point is I need a working solution, ASAP.
As I need this working now, I've just burnt off a CD from the dist. file server where everythin is already set up for an unattended install of W2K.

All the other operations are done from a plain dos diskette:

1. Delete partitions
2. Create a new partition
3. Reboot (using a reboot.com file)
3. Formatting using aefdisk (aefdisk.com)
Load unattend.txt from the diskette and files from the CD

This solves my immediate problem of being able to install 4 servers quick and easy.

It is NOT however an elegant solution, and the ftp solution would be better, and much more "dynamic", but as with all such things: I haven't got the time to sit around and wait for a way to do it the elegant way...

As for this question: I still want it deleted so everyone does not waste a lot of time on these other features I've asked for(whice I've solved myself.)

I'd like to delete this question, while reposting the single question again:

Howto boot to dos from a diskette, and launch an ftp session?

I'll be more then happy to post it with twice the amount of points if I could have it solved fast - that is not the issue.

Moderators & jools: Any comments on such a solution to this discussion?

Regards,
Roger
Ok, I'm fine if you really want to delete this Q, it is your Q after all.

However, How will the ftp session actually work?

What file(s) will you be copying from the linux system onto the PC and how will you start the install? Will it be a local hard disk install once the files have been copied?

It is possible to have a boot disk with network drivers and tcpip installed, you can also get a dos version of FTP.

The following link should point you to some useful ftp software.

http://www.powerload.fsnet.co.uk/msdos.htm

Perhaps is you want to close this Q, it would be best to do it now before we get into it too much.

May see you in another question.

J
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jools,

If you think you might be able to help me make the ftp thing work, I'll leave it open. Let's go:

First of all - I tried looking at the link you posted, but wasn't able to find any ftp software.

Simply put I've got a plain old dos boot disk and need to make it launch some ftp client, and fetch a few directories (maybe the I386 dir and a few others - if we find it impossible to find a client that can do recursive downloads, I'll place them at the same level) from the server  - and yes - once the files are down I'll do a local install from the downloaded files.
 
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jools,

If you think you might be able to help me make the ftp thing work, I'll leave it open. Let's go:

First of all - I tried looking at the link you posted, but wasn't able to find any ftp software.

Simply put I've got a plain old dos boot disk and need to make it launch some ftp client, and fetch a few directories (maybe the I386 dir and a few others - if we find it impossible to find a client that can do recursive downloads, I'll place them at the same level) from the server  - and yes - once the files are down I'll do a local install from the downloaded files.
 
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So, again simply put - I need to load TCP/IP and start an ftp client, nothing more, nothing less. I do not at all need the network mapping features etc. so if it is possible to load TCP/IP and FTP without them - all the better.
It's the msclient links (I think). The link to one of the files is here;

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/clients/msclient/dsk3-1.exe

I'll check this tomorrow to see if you can find them, if not I'll get them and post them to my own webspace so you can get them.

J
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jools - I've found a solution....now I need to get some sleep - will get back to you in the morning to explain how and what...... :-)
yes, tcp boot is hard to do, but I believe there are solutions in ee db

yes, ftp can be managed, through a batch

no, last I heard was ftp is not recursive that way, on its own. Solutions available for Windows and Unix, but not dos.

but for efficiency, a compression utility that knows more about subdirectories would help. pkZip is a cheap example. xfer a file of files that were ftp'd, then unpack at destination. Should be possible time saver at runtime

still with all the investment you've got in MS servers, with goal of deploying more, a have to 2nd jools remark, why not make one of them the origin? It would open more possibilities and MS is getting a little better at file xfer rate. Given security concerns not mentioned in problem, I won't recommend a swap, just the mention of the curiousity
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jools - and anyone that might care:

I've found (and used) an excellent network boot disk made by Bart Lagerweij and is found at http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/.

With this as a base and using his add-on SSHDOS module as a template, I've added and ftp client I found at http://www.smashco.com/wattcp.asp, wich also is based on WATTCP. and that's it - I'm running FTP under DOS.

As a note: this disk boots up with the MS Client software loaded as well, so you basically have an option to map a drive or get files by way of ftp, or both... Because of Bart's cool way of organizing and compressing all the needed files, there is even 329KB space left on the disk for whatever other utils I might need :-)


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