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Need a good definition of pdf permissions: content copying and page extraction

1) If a pdf's properties state "Content Copying" and "Page Extraction" are not allowed, should a well behaved automated/3rd party tool be able to extract the pdf's text and more importantly why/why not?

Security Settings:
This document has an open password or modify password. You cannot edit or copy this document

Security Method: Password Security
    Document Open Password: No
    Permissions Password:  Yes
    ....
    Document Assembly: Not allowed
    Content Copying: Not Allowed
    Content Copying for Accessbility: Not Allowed
    Page Extraction: Not Allowed
    Encryption Level: 128-bit RC4

Document Restrictions Summary
    Printing:  Allowed
    ....
    Document Assembly: Not allowed
    Content Copying: Not Allowed
    Content Copying for Accessbility: Not Allowed
    Page Extraction: Not Allowed
    Encryption Level: 128-bit RC4
    ...

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2) Bonus points: Can anyone provide a _good_ definition of what the various permissions like "Content Copying" and "Page Extraction" encompass in plain english?

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Regarding #1, would you say that also applies to automated tools? Like a non-graphical / command line tool that only extracts text? I'd think so. But it depends on whether "no copy" just means well behaved programs should disable the graphical "edit>copy" options OR if it's about the overall intent ie The author doesn't want you copying or using the contents for any other purpose. So anything that allows this should be restricted.
I've searched around and can't find a clear answer, even in adobe's docs .. ;)

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>> I'm not intimately familiar with many that work outside of a PDF viewer/editor
That's where it gets interesting. The "tool" in question is a watered down version of livecycle ddx with another Adobe product, ColdFusion.

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>> livecycle ddx with another Adobe product ..

Typo correction: livecycle ddx, *bundled* with another Adobe product ...

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>> Both are well-behaved PDF editors, but Acrobat 4 was not
>> developed to cover (or adhere to) some security standards

Of course that makes complete sense. While I can't rule it out, I'd think the latest ColdFusion (v9) bundled with LiveCycle (either v2.6 or 3.0?) would be aware of the "Allow Copy" security setting and handle it properly. So unless I'm misunderstanding the scope of that restriction .. I'm leaning towards your guess of oversight/accident. Since you've answered my original question quite well, I'm going to open a new thread about the livecyle / ddx stuff. I appreciate your help!

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