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First Impressions of Windows 10

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I have been running Windows 8 / 8.1 Professional 64-bit for about a year and a half up to October 1, 2014.
 
We are all familiar with the outcry over the loss of the Start Menu and the Metro Interface that (a) did not always make sense and (b) made us use a Start screen in order to use our Desktop applications. Then, too, games, Explorer and other applications in Metro only worked full screen. That is often a bad idea and many users rejected this as well.
 
Now people (with wallets) are the very final voter, and people stampeded away from Windows 8 leaving it with low market share. Windows 8.1 came out to improve things and try to mollify the people but that effort was largely unsuccessful.
 
With Windows 8.1, I made it start to the Desktop (could not be done prior to V8.1) and I made a “start” menu that comes on the right side task bar and points to all applications. It is tool bar:  %ProgramData%Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs that works from one of the Up arrows on the right side task bar. I just called it Programs.
 
With those two modifications (no purchased software), I got Windows 8.1 working smoothly and well and, in many ways, just like Windows 7 (which I had used for about 3 years). I purchased a subscription to Office 365 / 2013 and installed that, upgraded Adobe to V11, made sure my Nokia CS-18 USB Internet key worked, upgraded NCP Secure Entry for VPN access to clients, and installed VMware Workstation V10 so I can run Virtual Machines (Windows 7 Pro, Vista Business and back all the way to Windows 95 and DOS 6.3).
 
I did all this on a 3 pound ThinkPad X230 with an i5 CPU with 4 cores, 8 Gb of memory and a 500 Gb 7200-rpm hard drive. This makes an excellent machine to carry to clients and is a complete test bench in addition. All this running on a Windows 8.1 host machine.
 
Now the rumor mill has been abuzz for months now that Windows 9 was coming and that (my words) it would be the savior to move on from Windows 7. On September 30, Microsoft announced Windows 10 (there never was a Windows 9) and on October 1, a Windows 10 64-bit Technical Preview was made available. I downloaded this (about an hour) and then made a Virtual Machine (another hour or 2) which I now have running. I have been running Windows 10 for 24 hours elapsed time.
 
So I have some first impressions, but (a) such impressions have been formed with less than a day’s use and (b) Microsoft has built in a feedback mechanism to get customer input. Needless to say, the Windows 10 production release sometime early next year will be different than what I see here. Allow me to give you some first impressions here.
 
Usability:  If you are using Windows 8.1, you can adapt to Windows 10 in less than 30 minutes.
 
Desktop: Windows 10 starts in the desktop and so far I only see one mode. I have no “apps” yet but everything is running in “windows” and full screen is no longer forced upon us. I am a sturdy believer that my computer will be set up my way and (a) my way generally does not include full screen and (b) I have a lead baseball bat to beat operating systems into submission. I do this regularly (starting with the goofy interface in XP).
 
Internet: The browser is Internet Explorer V11 and is a slightly different version number in Windows 10 than in Windows 8.1 but it seems to work smoothly. Windows Update works and it is downloading 2 updates just now. Windows Update usually does work for me, but some people have difficulty with it and I am happy the Windows Update is working just fine in Windows 10.
 
Networking: Works!  I connected a drive from my Windows 7 machine to my Windows 10 machine and moved software over. This is important because networking is the underpinning of Windows and business people use networking all the time. It was nice to know that networking worked without issue or special accommodation. I use Sync Back Pro (2brightsparks.com) to keep 50 GB of documents and files synchronized between my laptop and desktop so that I have a current backup of all my files at all times. Networking 2 machines is the first thing I do with a new machine so that I can get all my software, email and virtual machines easily over to the new machine.
 
Start Menu:  The Start Menu is back!  A year ago I said (and fairly so) that Microsoft was not listening to users. Windows 8 was the proof of that. Today, it appears that Microsoft has been duly humbled and has broken to user demand with a proper Start Menu. It is similar to the Windows 7 Start Menu except it has pictures out the right side. Some people may like this, but I can see it getting in the way of working, so I will probably figure out how to remove the pictures.
 
Application compatibility: I have not loaded Office 2013 but I am sure it will work. An early version of iTunes 11 never worked on my Windows 8 machine. It just barfed and stopped working. I left iTunes on my Windows 7 Desktop to manage my iPhone and moved to Companion Link on the Windows 8 machine to manage Calendar, Contacts and Notes. Now iTunes V11.4 works perfectly well on Windows 10. That is good news for me. I use Net Term (a terminal application) on an infrequent basis. I use to use it a lot when I had and managed Netopia wireless routers. Net Term worked on Windows 8 but I could not make it work on Windows 8.1 (stopped working errors). The newest version of Net Term works happily in Windows 10. So this far (in less than a day) modern software troublesome to Windows 8.1 is working in Windows 10. This is good news as well.
I have the newest version of Symantec Endpoint Protection (12.1.5 and EMET (Microsoft) Version 5) running on Windows 8.1.  I expect both will run on Windows 10 when it goes into production. Right now Windows Defender runs on Windows 10 and just updated, so it should be fine for the time being.
 
Access and Login:  Windows 8 was standard local computer access. When Windows 8.1 came out, it enforced an email account to log in which you can change in PC Settings. I changed the login way back so that when I turn on the Windows 8.1 machine, it uses a user name and password just like Windows 7.
 
Windows 10 also enforces an email account also. I went directly to PC Settings and changed it. There was a warning in Windows 10 (absent, if I remember correctly, in Windows 8.1) that your documents would be lost and needed to be backed up first. I have no documents in Windows 10, so this was not an issue. I had no documents in Windows 8.1 so it was not an issue then, either.
 
Overall: Windows 10 is much more unified than Windows 8. Microsoft has now said that the Windows 10 operating system for Windows Phone will be different (as it will need to be) than the Windows 10 for computers. I think, based on what I see, that this strategy has a decent chance of working.
 
A senior person at one of my clients is using a tiny Windows Surface Pro 3 with Windows 8.1 and two grand 21 inch monitors on it. He says Windows 8.1 makes sense on the Surface Pro 3, and so I expect Windows 10 will easily make sense on Surface Pro x next year.
 
This Windows 10 machine works and is comfortable. If it were a production release today, I would buy it today. So far, I do not see any show stoppers. I like it so far and I expect you will also.
 
 
Below is a screen shot of my Windows 10 desktop.tpu01.png 
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by:Gary Case
Agree.   I've also been using it for a bit over a day and am impressed at how well they've resolved most of the issues folks have with Windows 8.1

I suspect that in many ways Windows 8 is kinda like Vista =>  Vista was a flawed product that shouldn't have been released in its original form; but after two service packs it was actually a fairly good OS ... but the damage was already done and it couldn't really be salvaged.    Windows 7 was a MAJOR improvement and the market clearly understood that.     Windows 8 was similar -- and by the time 8.1 was released the damage was already done ... PLUS Microsoft hadn't listened well enough to the Start menu (or lack thereof) complaints, so that wasn't really fixed.    Windows 10 has resolved all of that very nicely, and I suspect will be a VERY successful product.    

As for the graphics to the right of the Start menu ... you can simply right-click on each of the graphics and "Unpin from Start" and it will go away => remove them all and there's no more graphics area :-)       If you DO want a few of them there (they're actually very handy if you have a touchscreen and want to start them with a touch), you simply "Pin to Start" anything you want to have in that area; and you can right-click on the icon and Resize it to "small" to make them much smaller pictures (this looks like it would work very well).

As for your comment on usability ["... If you are using Windows 8.1, you can adapt to Windows 10 in less than 30 minutes."]  ==>   I disagree.   It'll take more like 3 minutes than 30 :-)     I think the same thing is true if you've moving from Windows 7 ... this will be a VERY easy transition.

Overall, I'm very favorably impressed.    This will clearly be my OS of choice once it's released.
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by:Gary
Windows 10 starts in the desktop
- I gather from the rumours that it will start optimised for the device i.e. if it's a touch device then it will start in touch mode, so I wouldn't count on the desktop being the default or full screen not being the default - probably not much of a worry.
As a developer W8 was useless - kinda reminded me of ME, plying to the inexperienced user and forgetting the people that actually used it. If I write websites the mouse is all important, I need to click dropdowns, make quick selections etc in the program I'm using to program
I'm a W7 user that would never switch to W8 bar on my phone but W10 looks like I may make the switch

Anyway, great summary of the very beta release John and gets my vote
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by:John
Thank you both. Like Gary Case, I made Vista work well and then I made Windows 8.1 work well also. I think Windows 10 will be a winner.


it will start optimized for the device  <-- I heard that as well. I have only tried it on a computer at this point.
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by:capreol
Excellent article John.  I installed the preview version of Windows 10 on October 1st, the day after the release.  I am impressed with this new version of Windows.  My first evening with the new OS I could not help but say "these folks have removed/modified a very significant number of the complaints/problems users had with both Windows 8 and Windows 8.1.  I am pleased to see that Microsoft has made a significant effort to incorporate features that facilitate computer use with a conventional desktop PC or for that matter a conventional laptop PC.  (i.e. non touch screen).  The Metro interface is still available if you want it and in a variety of formats.  Things are looking up...I may be purchasing Microsoft shares once again!
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by:John
@capreol  - Thank you for the comments. I agree - things are looking up.
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by:Stephen Kairys
John,
Thanks for posting. Just out of curiosity...

>>With Windows 8.1, I made it start to the Desktop (could not be done prior to V8.1) >>and I made a “start” menu that comes on the right side task bar and points to all >>applications. It is tool bar:  %ProgramData%Microsoft\Windows\Start >>Menu\Programs that works from one of the Up arrows on the right side task bar. I >>just called it Programs.

Do you have a simple instruction set per how to to the above?
Thanks,
Steve
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by:John
For Windows 8, 8.1, and 10 (if you need or want)

1. Right Click on the Taskbar
2. Select Toolbar, New Toolbar
3. Add the following content in the space provided:
%ProgramData%Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
4. Save the toolbar. It should call itself Programs.

That should do it for you.

Also look at my Windows 8 article:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Windows/A_16620-Ways-to-improve-Windows-8.html

Instructions are also in this above article
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by:Stephen Kairys
Thank you John.
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by:Maclean
Nice article. I do think Windows 8 had some very good improvements on primarily performance and stability, however the change from start bar to touch interface was too much and too soon. You need to gradually morph changes, so having the start bar back is a welcome change. Interested to see how Windows 10 will develop over the years to come, seeing as it is the "last" full release of Windows. Quote "last" as one never knows what the future holds.

Now lets hope that they fix up Server 2012's start screen next ;)
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by:John
Thank you. I use the same technique from my Windows 8.1 article on my client Server 2012 machines.
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by:Spike99
I've been running Windows 10 on my Dell Venue 11 pro tablet for a couple of months now.  I'm with you John: I don't like the full screen "Metro" mode even though that mode is designed to work on a tablet like mine, so I was very happy Windows 10 started in desktop mode.  However, after updating to build 10166 about a month ago, my onscreen keyboard broke: it would only come up when I was in "tablet mode" (the new term for "Metro mode" apparently).    So, I was very unhappy with Windows 10.

But, the latest update fixed that problem (build 10176).  So, now I'm a happy camper again! :) I'm not sure I like the changes they made to the store, but other than that I like Windows 10 a alot.  I'll will probably update my laptop to 10 when the final version is released at the end of the month.
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by:John
Thanks for the update. I still have Build 10162 on my VM Windows 10. It is still pre-release so stuff will break. I always report that in the feedback. I am happy the Build 10176 fixes things.

I want to replace my Windows 7 Desktop in August with Windows 10 and get the production version running. I will replace my Windows 8.1 laptop later but before the end of the year.
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by:Stephen Kairys
@Maclean

>>Interested to see how Windows 10 will develop over the years to come, seeing as it is the "last" full release of Windows. Quote "last" as one never knows what the future holds.<<

Just curious.  With the understanding that win10 may NOT end up being the last "full" release, what does Microsoft have in mind then to advance the product?

Thanks,
Steve
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by:John
Who knows what will happen in 6 or 7 years.

However, XP lasted a nice 5 or 6 years BEFORE Vista came along. One computer, one OS. Nice.
Vista lasted < 2 years.
Windows 7 lasted 4 to 5 years and was another nice run.
Windows 8 / 8.1 lasts 2 to 3 years.

We can only hope I can buy a Windows 10 on one computer and have the whole thing last 5 to 6 years without any new OS on the horizon.

We do NOT need upgrades as fast as they are coming.

I can do essentially everything I need to do on a Windows 2000 machine with Office 2000.
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by:Gary Case
" I can do essentially everything I need to do on a Windows 2000 machine with Office 2000. " ==>  Ditto, with the sole exception of a few web sites that require an updated version of IE ... and those work just fine with Firefox :-)
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by:marrowyung
the last build I tried is 10166, can't believe that the the login screen has problem to detect the right key input,  anyone experience this ?
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by:John
I think I am at build 10162 at this point and have not had an issue with it. Windows 10 is still pre-release for another few days, so click on the Feedback link to send them your comments.
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by:marrowyung
I knew I tried that. 10162 and 10166 has this issue.

I roll back to the 1015x, it is fine then, I can't believe it.

I think it might be because I have other language as input language, the installation just activate that by some reason and when I roll back to Window 8.1 or 1015x build, this problem also gone !
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by:John
I am not having any issues with 10162, but I am not using other languages.
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by:marrowyung
yeah, I understand.
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by:Spike99
I've been running Windows 10 on my Dell Venue 11 Pro for a couple of months.  I was pretty happy with the updates from last week, but I had some issues after the updates on the day of release.  For one, Windows Store stopped working.  It would pop up on the screen for about 2 seconds then close without error.  Also, Windows Update kept trying to install an updated driver for the Dell Synaptics touchpad, but failed every time.  Upgrading the BIOS, drivers, etc. didn't help.

So, I reset Windows 10 back to factory.  I did get a warning that since Windows 10 was an upgrade, I wouldn't be able to roll back to the previous version of Windows if I continued.  I was fine with that, so I completed the reset:  Windows 10 is working better than ever.

I'm pretty happy with it so far, but I'm going to wait a few weeks before upgrading my laptop to 10.
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by:marrowyung
"Windows 10 is working better than ever."

yes! I done the upgrade already and existing application run faster in Windows 10! like outlook, word and excel.

I will upgrade my laptop at office later on!

the keyboard issue on my PC is gone! it is ok, the but I found that I can't install SQL server 2014 successfully the the error is Analysis service can't find specified directory and can't found
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by:Spike99
MS's web page says you must install  SQL 2014 Service Pack 1 or later on Windows 10. Did you install all the latest updates for SQL?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2681562

You can download SQL 2014 SP1 on this page:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=46694
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by:marrowyung
but the point is when I first run it, it will be the one without SP1! this is why I get it!

any solution to merge SP1 with the existing SQL server 2014 source?
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by:Spike99
You could install SQL 2014 & then install SP1 directly afterward before you run it the first time.

But, if you would like to combine the updates into the installation package (called "splipstreaming"), this article describes how you can slipstream SP1 & other updates into SQL 2012 & 2014:
http://www.sqlshack.com/slipstreaming-sql-server-2012-2014/

I will also post this answer over in your question about the problem in case this helps you out.  We should probably take the discussion of this issue over to your question:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/28702242/Windows-10-and-SQL-server-2014-analysis-service.html
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by:John
Yes, this recent discussion really belongs on the Q&A side.
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by:marrowyung
Alicia,

"You could install SQL 2014 & then install SP1 directly afterward before you run it the first time."

the first round of RTM installation already give an error ! go ahead to SP1 seems useless ,agree?

or what you mean is the error message is sth misleading and what I need to do is just go ahead and install SP1 even Analysis service can't start at all ? and once done, AS can be start?

"But, if you would like to combine the updates into the installation package (called "splipstreaming"), this article describes how you can slipstream SP1 & other updates into SQL 2012 & 2014:
http://www.sqlshack.com/slipstreaming-sql-server-2012-2014/"

so need to do this anyway ?

"I will also post this answer over in your question about the problem in case this helps you out.  We should probably take the discussion of this issue over to your question:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/28702242/Windows-10-and-SQL-server-2014-analysis-service.html"

agree ! let's go over there.

john, you mean discuss over my other post, right?
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by:marrowyung
I update Windows 10 on my other laptop and what I found out is it is much faster in overloading situation !

and I found out one more thing is , if I don't touch the launched process for a while Windows 10 will off load that from RAM, so use less RAM overall !

this is good !
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by:John
Yes. You need to use Q&A so all experts can assist.
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by:Kyle Santos
FYI Windows Edge browser does not support Java.

I just installed Windows 10 on my computer and so far just working out the driver issues.  I can't wait to see how things turn out otherwise. :)
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by:John
I disabled Edge, new Photo, Music, and Video applications and turned OFF the other startup settings except for Smart Screen and allowed Windows 10 to use my default applications and settings. I am using IE 11 and the newest version of Java 8 V51 and it is working fine with IE 11.
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by:capreol
John,
Why did you disable Edge and the new Photo, Music and Video applications?  I had the impression that Edge was to provide new and improved search capabilities.
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by:John
There are a number of questions about Edge that don't work with this and that. Using IE 11 was the solution in most cases. Also, the new applications are web enabled and I do not want photos of mine out there.

I use Windows 10 Search for local and Google for web and that all works fine.

I am more interested in quality operating systems and good performance than I am in "cool"
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by:capreol
How did you disable the new Photo, Music and Video applications?  Also, did you disable the windows update delivery optimization (WUDO)?  That feature concerns me.
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by:Kyle Santos
An hour or so later I'm finally up and running with my Nvidia graphics card finally installed.  I'll look into turning some of that other stuff off.
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by:John
You can find things in Settings, Notification and Actions and Default apps. You can change Windows Update in Settings, Update and Security  and you can change Web Sense (Wi-Fi) in Network settings.

If you need more help, this is really a Q&A question and you can ask a detailed question there.
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by:capreol
Thanks for the very informative article John.  Much appreciated.  I also had to upgrade my video card this afternoon and now Windows 10 works very well.  My previous video card was an ATI Radeon 1600 series and the drivers were not included with the Windows 10 upgrade.  As well, the Windows 10 drivers for this card were not available on the AMD/ATI website.  I believe that since the card is 6 years old the manufacturer has decided to retire this video card.  Other upgraders should be aware of this potential problem.  They should not worry really because you may be able to upgrade that component to a new piece of hardware and not have any problems.  My guess is that a computer, older than 6 years, should not be upgraded to Windows 10...less head aches and the new computer will work a lot better.
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by:John
My new computer upgraded fine, but the old one was too far gone.
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by:marrowyung
both my computer upgrade fine but I can tell you all that the web media builder one has diff build and I need to set it to US region before upgrade or it don't keep my existing application.

the reserve copy does work fine !

and I will need to reinstall one of my PC as that one use the web installer and it make the login screen is not displaying the time in right language !
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by:Kyle Santos
Help. :)

Why is my Microsoft Remote Desktop not working after Windows 10 upgrade?

fyi I did turn off a lot of that privacy crap on my own as described here.  I did not install that application though.
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Kyle,

all working for me ! I have more than 30 RDPs ! all working fine including Windows build in VPN !
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by:Kyle Santos
@marrowyung
Are you using Windows 10 native Remote Desktop?  Or are you using another program?  (I have a macbook I am trying to use Remote Desktop to connect to my PC that has Windows 10.)
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by:marrowyung
"Are you using Windows 10 native Remote Desktop? "

native means windows's own remote desktop program? mstsc ? yes if so !
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