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OT - OT/PPP Problems with applications

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Ok - I have been sucessfully using classical networking for some time with no problems.  I recently installed OT 1.1.2 and OT/PPP 1.0, configured them apparently correctly and immediately connected with my ISP.  When I went to use Netscape (3.0 Gold) it said it was unable to create a socket connection, insufficient resources or network may be down.  When I tried to use Eudora, I also had problems.  In other words, although I was apparently connected to my ISP, my networking applications didn't work.  Fortunately, I had a backup copy of my System folder, so when I trashed the one with OT installed and used my old one with classical networking, everything was fine.  What the hell am I doing wrong?  My system is a Performa 6115CD, 40meg ram, GV 33.6 Speakerphone Edition.
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by:scottr
ID: 1541660
I got the exact setup at home.  I tried to do the same thing with no luck.  Finally, and it's painful, I installed OT1.1, then toggled the application Network Software Selector inside the Apple Extras folder, then upgraded to OT1.1.1, then 1.1.2 and installed OT/PPP1.0, then before logging into the ISP go into the TCP/IP control panel and select Connect via: PPP and Using PPP Server.  This worked for me :-)  Let me know if it does for you and either grant points let me know it didn't work
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by:drice
ID: 1541661
God - that does sound painful!  Are you suggesting that I need to install the prior OT versions in order to use OT 1.1.2?  I did all of what you suggest, with the exception of installing the earlier versions of OT.  Please let me know if this is what you are suggesting.  If it is, and I get no other more straightforward was to go about this, I'll try your idea (when I have a free afternoon!) and if it works, you'll certainly get the points!
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by:scottr
ID: 1541662
Yes it was painful :(  I spent a good month trying different things before I got it.  From www.apple.com you can pull down OT 1.1 and install it in about 5 minutes.  The updates are about as long.  I also make sure that between installs, which reboot the system anyway, I let the system come up each time without extensions on.  The other thing you may want to try before hand is to get into the Extensions Manager and turn off everything you don't really need and reboot.  The way you describe the problem it sounds like the exact error WIN3.1 systems have with a really crapy IP stack (Wollengong).
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by:ttroutma
ID: 1541663
Edit/Usermode/Advanced then Options UNcheck the load only when needed box.  If this doesn't do it, whack it with a little Mac Voodoo, zap your parameter ram (command/option/p and r) hold those down on startup till the Mac bongs three times.  Rebuild your desktop, hold down the shift key till it's booting without extensions and then hold down the two keys to the left of the space bar till it rebuilds the desktop.
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by:dalshar
ID: 1541664
Drice is right, on my reading of the Read Me, only Powermacs can
install OT1.1.2 without having OT1.1 underneath.
But all the other things
will help ensure the proces is  painless(grin) AFTER installing.          
I run OT1.1.2. FreePPP2.5.2 And Cyberdog1.1.2 on a Centris 660av
but I run only the extensions neccessary for them  
(using Extensions Manager) to turn the others off.
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by:dalshar
ID: 1541665
Drice is right, on my reading of the Read Me, only Powermacs can
install OT1.1.2 without having OT1.1 underneath.
But all the other things
will help ensure the proces is  painless(grin) AFTER installing.          
I run OT1.1.2. FreePPP2.5.2 And Cyberdog1.1.2 on a Centris 660av
but I run only the extensions neccessary for them  
(using Extensions Manager) to turn the others off.
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dimauro earned 300 total points
ID: 1541666
You should open the OT/PPP control panel, click in the button options... from there check the second panel in the voice "Connect Automatically when ....". This permit at the applications you mentioned to start the connection when them are called.
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