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IIcx system puzzle

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Machine: Mac IIcx (8meg RAM - 120 MB Hd)
Originally running System 6.0.7

I get the following message on the screen when starting up (no matter what diskette is inserted e.g. system startup, utilities, install me first etc.):

Message text:  This startup disk was created with "Minimal software and will not work on this Macintosh model.  Use the Installer to update this disk for this model.

Background:  I work extensively with PCs.  Familiar with some Mac basics.  I got used a Mac IICX for my daughter and it was working ok.  It was working with System version 6.0.7.  I had problems installing some kid's software (would not install several titles.)  I thought perhaps I needed a
later system software though the software specs said I was ok with what I had.  Here's what I (stupidly) did:

1) I copied system version 7.0 folder into a temp folder on the HD.
2) I open the system 6 folder and moved the finder to a new folder inside the system folder and named it storage.
3) I then closed the system 6 folder and renamed it holder. (oh-oh!)
4) I then renamed the temp folder with system 7 to system folder.  Restarted with message above.
5) Have tried booting from floppy drive by using HD bypass keys but after 10 seconds of the Happy Mac face the system kicks out to the HD boot sequence.

 I went so far as to physically disconnect the HD to boot from a floppy but it would not boot..

I have tried numerous diskettes booting from the 3.5 inch drive and nothing changes. I do not have a system disk (install me first) that came with the Mac II but I do have a complete set from a Quadra 660 w/ system 6.  

Help me please!

BJ Grant
bjgrant@esslink.com
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Oops! The System 7 and System 6 Finders are quite different and incompatible.

If you have a Norton Utilities Emergency Disk, start from that, put the System 6 Finder back in the System 6 Folder, trash all the other junk you added and renamed, then restart.

If you don't have a Norton Utilities Emergency disk, things are a little more painful. Just to get things straight:

1) Did you copy a System 7 folder to the machine, or install it with an installer? Whatever method used, you name it "temp," right?
 
2) Now you have a System 6 folder without a Finder and a System 6 Finder inside a folder named "storage," right?

3) The System 6 folder (without Finder) has been renamed to "holder," right?

4) You renamed the System 7 folder with the System 6 Finder to "Sytem Folder," right? You now have a folder named "holder" with System 6 that lacks a Finder, and a "System Folder" with a System 6 Finder that may or may not have a System suitcase 7.

5)What do you mean by kicks to the HD boot sequence? Just hangs? Turns to sad Mac?

The Mac will look for a system folder on the floppy, and if it doesn't find one there, will start looking on hard drives till it finds one. If it doesn't find one, it just hangs, or gives you a sad Mac other other Apple treat.

For System 7, it will look for a folder that contains a Finder and a System suitcase, which must be compatible with one another. (Note that it doesn't look for a "System Folder.")

Try installing System 6 from the Quadra 660 disks. When it tries to restart, hold down the "Shift" key so it won't attempt to load any inits. If it starts, trash every folder that contains a Finder or a System Suitcase, then reinstall System 6 from the Quadra 660 diskettes.

If it won't start, you need a System floppy from which the machine will start.

Try the above, and if it works fine. email me at dooly@hooked.net for instructions on updating to System 7.

If it doesn't work, please submit a comment.

Good Luck.
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