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Applications quitting due to type 10 errors
I have a Performa 6115 CD PPC. 24 of RAM. System 7.6.1. Open Transport 1.1.2.
This problem developed after upgrading to system 7.6 & 7.6.1.
I have no trouble connecting to my local provider. When I try to "check mail" in my e-mail program, (Eudora Lite 3.1), I get the message:
"The application unknown has unexpectedly quit because an error of type 10 occurred."
When this occurs none of my Internet related software, (Eudora, Newswatcher, Netscape 3.0) will function until the computer has been restarted. About half the time it will freeze on restart, (I think after the extensions have loaded). It doesn't occur every time. It rarely will occur just when opening the application even before I have started my Free PPP. Sometimes it will occur in Netscape when I'm trying to open another URL. Sometimes it will happen at the end of a session when I am actually quitting the application. (This actually started after upgrading Open Transport to 1.1.2).
It occurs with:
Speed Doubler 2.0.3 on or off
Conflict Catcher 4.0 on or off
Virtual Memory on or off
I have trashed the Finder preference and the TCP/IP preferences. No change.
I have run Nortons Disk Doctor and Speed disk, rebuilt the desktop and zapped the PRAM. Eventually it will occur again. It does not occur in any other application.
While I was trying to register with your service, I tried to save the Guidelines and I received this message:
"There is not enough memory to keep the window hard disk open".
When I clicked on OK I received this message:
The application Netscape Navigator 3.0 has unexpectedly quit because an error of type 20 occurred. This has never happened before.
This problem developed after upgrading to system 7.6 & 7.6.1.
I have no trouble connecting to my local provider. When I try to "check mail" in my e-mail program, (Eudora Lite 3.1), I get the message:
"The application unknown has unexpectedly quit because an error of type 10 occurred."
When this occurs none of my Internet related software, (Eudora, Newswatcher, Netscape 3.0) will function until the computer has been restarted. About half the time it will freeze on restart, (I think after the extensions have loaded). It doesn't occur every time. It rarely will occur just when opening the application even before I have started my Free PPP. Sometimes it will occur in Netscape when I'm trying to open another URL. Sometimes it will happen at the end of a session when I am actually quitting the application. (This actually started after upgrading Open Transport to 1.1.2).
It occurs with:
Speed Doubler 2.0.3 on or off
Conflict Catcher 4.0 on or off
Virtual Memory on or off
I have trashed the Finder preference and the TCP/IP preferences. No change.
I have run Nortons Disk Doctor and Speed disk, rebuilt the desktop and zapped the PRAM. Eventually it will occur again. It does not occur in any other application.
While I was trying to register with your service, I tried to save the Guidelines and I received this message:
"There is not enough memory to keep the window hard disk open".
When I clicked on OK I received this message:
The application Netscape Navigator 3.0 has unexpectedly quit because an error of type 20 occurred. This has never happened before.
Have you re-installed Eudora? You didnt say
I was interested in your problem because I have been having the same problem on a PB 1400 and MS Word mostly. The only item we seem to have in common is the use of Open Transport. I'll try it in the morning to see if that clears things up.
Tom
Tom
Error 10 could be caused by two things: either there's a bug or corruption of your Eudora application (and reinstalling it could fix the problem) or...
Sometimes, when MacOS can't figure out why something went wrong on a PPC system, it just spits up a Type 10 error.
Because it only occurs when you run Eudora, I would try downloading a newer version of Eudora Lite (or buying a commercial version of Eudora). Make sure you trash Eudora's older preferences file.
Your second problem, with Error Type 20, might be related to your recent upgrade to System 7.6.1. Errors in this range are generally related to a corrupted system file. If you have sufficient hard drive space, you might want to try a 'clean reinstall' of your system. This is accomplished by holding down the command (apple) + Shift + K when you're in the Installer dialog window. Check the "Install New System Folder" radio button and click "OK."
This kind of install creates a new System Folder and a folder called "old System Folder" which contains all your preferences, extensions, fonts and other stuff from your previous system.
If the system file is corrupted, it could be causing the errors with Eudora and Netscape when they make calls to certain system instructions.
Finally, if neither the system file or applications are corrupted, the problem could be related to bad or damaged RAM.
Good luck.
Sometimes, when MacOS can't figure out why something went wrong on a PPC system, it just spits up a Type 10 error.
Because it only occurs when you run Eudora, I would try downloading a newer version of Eudora Lite (or buying a commercial version of Eudora). Make sure you trash Eudora's older preferences file.
Your second problem, with Error Type 20, might be related to your recent upgrade to System 7.6.1. Errors in this range are generally related to a corrupted system file. If you have sufficient hard drive space, you might want to try a 'clean reinstall' of your system. This is accomplished by holding down the command (apple) + Shift + K when you're in the Installer dialog window. Check the "Install New System Folder" radio button and click "OK."
This kind of install creates a new System Folder and a folder called "old System Folder" which contains all your preferences, extensions, fonts and other stuff from your previous system.
If the system file is corrupted, it could be causing the errors with Eudora and Netscape when they make calls to certain system instructions.
Finally, if neither the system file or applications are corrupted, the problem could be related to bad or damaged RAM.
Good luck.
If all else fails, try OT/PPP instead of FreePPP.
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Type 10 error code!
Have you got a hidden 'RAMDoubler" file on your disk?
Restart with extension off. Adjust your memory control panel as follows: Reduce your cache to run @ 256 - turn your RAM off - turn your Virtual Mem. off.
Restart & rebuilt desktop
Have you got a hidden 'RAMDoubler" file on your disk?
Restart with extension off. Adjust your memory control panel as follows: Reduce your cache to run @ 256 - turn your RAM off - turn your Virtual Mem. off.
Restart & rebuilt desktop
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Sorry, I took so long in responding, life has been pretty hectic. After trying everything I could think of, (and before I got a chance to read the help suggestions), I re-installed the older versions of Eudora Lite (back to 1.54), and Netscape, (2.01), that I had been using and ALL problems went away. I have had no problems of any kind since. Of course, now I'm trapped unable to upgrade, but at least everything is working as it was intended. Thanks so much for the help.
Technically, an Error 10 is caused by a missing or corrupted system entry point. In practice this usually means one of three things: (1) the application in question has become corrupted, (2) the application has failed to check the current MacOS and/or ROM version, or (3) the entry point to a specific routine in the MacOS has become corrupted.
This being the case, you can usually solve the problem by first upgrading/re-installing the application(s) in question. If this fails to solve the problem, there's a good chance your System file has become corrupted. You can either try to retrieve a copy from a fairly recent backup, or if that's not possible, perform a "clean" MacOS re-install.
If you have an alternative disk or partition available, you might consider installing the appropriate MacOS version on that disk as a temporary measure. Once that install is complete, boot from this new system and simply copy the new System file over to the old System Folder, replacing the old file.
The downside of re-installing the System or the System file is that some software installers will insert custom resources into the System file as part of the installation. Since you're replacing the old System file, all of these custom resources will be lost.
In my experience, however, this is seldom a serious problem. Your mileage, or course, will vary. If after replacing the System file you experience problems with certain apps, simply re-install them.
This being the case, you can usually solve the problem by first upgrading/re-installing the application(s) in question. If this fails to solve the problem, there's a good chance your System file has become corrupted. You can either try to retrieve a copy from a fairly recent backup, or if that's not possible, perform a "clean" MacOS re-install.
If you have an alternative disk or partition available, you might consider installing the appropriate MacOS version on that disk as a temporary measure. Once that install is complete, boot from this new system and simply copy the new System file over to the old System Folder, replacing the old file.
The downside of re-installing the System or the System file is that some software installers will insert custom resources into the System file as part of the installation. Since you're replacing the old System file, all of these custom resources will be lost.
In my experience, however, this is seldom a serious problem. Your mileage, or course, will vary. If after replacing the System file you experience problems with certain apps, simply re-install them.
Try that if you haven't already. If it works, then please allow me to submit this as an answer; I don't think I've done enough to submit this as anything but a comment.
Rifty.