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NWadmin and MS NW client

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I have some W95 computers, and one Netware 4.1 server (no NT server)

For security reasons I prefer to use User security sharing on my pear-to-pear W95 network

But using this feature cannot be done with Netware clients (I try Client 32 for W95 I get only access to netware server files)

So I use on W95 : Client for MS, MS client for Netware, MS file and printer sharing for Netware

BUT in that config I cannot get NWAdmin works (no more NWadmin than NWadmin95) (it says that some DLL-LOCWIN32 are missing and these DLL works fine when I install netware client32)

Perhaps it needs only to put some DLL in the rigth directory, perhaps it's more difficult !

It could be more easy to work with the two (now, I need to install NW client 32 to run NWAdmin, then install MS NW client and Share services, reconfigure sharing to get the computer in the same state) so it's not very easy to administrate !!!

If somebody already experiment some answer, thank you in advance
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by:ashort
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I don't understand why you can't install the "Microsoft Windows Networking" client, using NetBeui, and then the client32 from Novell.  They use different protocols, and _shouldn't_ get in the way of each other.

I'd make sure you have the NetBeui protocol installed, along with the Microsoft networking client.  Once that is working, install the client32.  They SHOULD both work.  

These are two entirely separate networks and the only thing they share on the same computer is the NIC and the wire.  


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by:chapdela
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The problem is that I use the Netware server only as a security server for the service : Microsoft Sharing files and printers with netware server

The ressources (files and printers) are on W95 stations, the protocols loaded are NetBeui, IPX/SPX (Microsoft), TCP/IP for AS400 emulation purpose.
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by:MJPerry
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Unfortunately there is no way to get the MS NW client to run NWADMIN, the reason being that using the MS client logs you onto your Netware 4.1 server in bindery emulation mode and so as such cannot get access to your NDS tree.

Whereas Client32 logs on using an NDS connection, logging into your NDS tree.

Novell recommend using Client 32 anyway because using an NDS connection gives better performance.
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by:chapdela
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I've already read that BUT
I need to get the network USER security (which can only be done under W95, by using a true server, either NT or Netware), and the MS User security seems to work only with the MS client and MS Service : file and printer sharing for netware network, it doesn't work with Novell client

I've seen in the MS service window one whith name "service for NDS", but nothing appear when I try to put it

I am in W95 OSR2

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nick_payne earned 100 total points
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Even if you install Microsoft's NDS service with the MS NetWare client, it only has support for 16-bit programs that have been linked to the old NetWare DLLs (NWNET.DLL, NWCALLS.DLL, etc). The original version of NWADMIN that was released with NW 4.1 (v4.10.2) may have been linked to these DLLs, but more recent versions have been linked to the newer DLLs which the MS client doesn't support.

Have you tried running the version of NWAdmin that comes off the NW 4.10 CD to see if it works. To get any version of NWAdmin working with the MS client you also need to have the MS NDS service installed as well. You can't use NWAdmin without being logged in as an NDS user, and the vanilla MS NetWare client only allows you to login as a bindery user.
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