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Win95 won't boot following HD partitioning

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Hello!

I recently backed up my 1.6 GB WD Hard Drive and decided to re-partition it.  I made sure to back up all of my files, including the hidden ones.  Well after partitioning the hard-drive and then restoring all of the files, Windows 95 won't boot.

This is the scenario:  The BIOS boots, then a screen pops up with a table showing me the specs of my system, and then, all I get is a cursor.  NOrmally, it would say "Starting Windows 95" or something like that underneath this table.  But all I get is a cursor.

I made myself a Win95 boot disk a while ago, but if I boot into Win95 using the boot disk, it won't recognize my CD-ROM drive, which means that I can't re-insall Win95 since my version is on CD-ROM.

I tried going into the \WINDOWS directory and typing "win", but it gives me the message that my "HIMEM.SYS" file is missing even though the file is clearly in the \Windows directory.

I think I've got two options:
1.  Somehow trigger the right file so that Win95 will start ('cause all the Windows files are there).
2.  Somehow access my CD-ROM drive so that I can re-install it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Kenneth Friesen
kafriese@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca
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I'll go with the second option.
Get into dos.  (Start the computer and when you see a line saying 'Starting Windows '95' press F8 key.  You will be presented with a menu of choices, choose 'Safe Mode Command Prompt only')

First of all if you copied config.sys then you will have a line in it which looks like
DEVICE=c:\TBS6X\D011V200.SYS /D:MSCD001
or it might say DEVICEHIGH.  The drive C:\tbs6x\d011v200.sys is specific to my cd-rom drive, yours will probably be different.  To find this line key on /D:XXXXXXX where XXXXXX is probably going to say MSCD001 .  That line in config.sys loads your cd-rom driver into value pointer by XXXXXX.  Check to see if the driver is on your hard drive and also make sure to write down the name of pointer (MSCD001).

Next, edit your autoexec.bat.
See if you locate a line which call MSCDEX.  if you can't then insert it
C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001
where /d:XXXXXX should look same as in config.sys.  Save changes.

Restart the computer, and follow steps on top to get to dos prompt, but this time choose 'Command Prompt only' without saying safe mode.  That should drop you into dos and load your CD-ROM drivers.

Note: if you don't have a line in config.sys to load your cd-rom device driver, you need to contact the company which made your cd-rom drive. (Its probably generic cd-rom driver like sony or panasonic).  A lot of drivers are available on the internet from manufacturers.  

vmushinskiy@earthlink.net
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Val_m, THANKS for your response!

My problem is that the "Starting Windows 95" line never actually appears.  All I get is a cursor following the table that gives my system specs.  Therefore, I am unable to press F8 and go into a Command Prompt Safe Mode.  My only way of getting a prompt is to use a Win95 boot disk, and when I do this, it does not load my autoexec.bat nor my config.sys.
Thus, my CD-ROM drivers aren't loaded when I use a boot disk.  Oh, and my config.sys and autoexec.bat have the appropriate lines pertaining to the cdrom drivers, so I don't believe that is the problem.

It appears to me that the only way to solve this problem is to get Win 95 to actually boot properly, (ie.  If I could get the line saying "Starting Windows 95" and then be able to type F8, then that would be REALLY AWESOME!).




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When you boot with your floppy do you get a line saying 'starting windows 95' or 'starting dos' ?  If you do then you can press F8 and drop into dos.  If I guess correctly, your boot files on the boot drive (C:) are corrupted.  If you are successful in booting from a floppy then type the following (I assume you have windows installed in C:\windows)  :
  C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\sys.com a: c:  .  That should copy system files onto your C: drive.   (You might have sys.com on your boot disk.  In that case just type sys.com a: c: .  )
Try to boot your system after that and you might not even need to reinstall windows.
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Val,

I was able to get the Win95 boot menu after typing F8 when using the boot disk.  Thanks for your suggestion.  I went into a command prompt and was able to access my CD-ROM.  I then re-installed Windows 95.  Windows 95 boots OK until it reaches the point where it should present me with my desktop screen and my network login.  Instead, all I get is a blank screen and an hour glass that doesn't move, but simply stays in the centre of the screen.  My mouse is unable to move the hour glass, and none of the icons on my desktop load.  The system basically hangs up at that point.  I've rebooted a dozen times and still the same thing happens.  Any suggestions?

kenneth
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Of course you can just delete windows directory and reinstall windows again.  (Clean install).  After that you will positively be able to start windows, but you will lose all your desktop settings and any windows programs you have installed will have to be reinstalled.  Couple things you can try is to runs scandisk (from dos prompt), chkdsk but I doubt it would fix the problem.
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Now I feel a little sheepish.  That hour glass that I referred to actually disappears after two minutes, but I was a tad impatient.  Yup, so my desktop loads after all; it just takes 2 minutes of stalling!  Thanks for your help.
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