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How can I change the default DOS shell in Windows 95.
I'd use NDOS insted MSDOS.
How I set NDOS parameters (Enviroment, swapping etcetera)
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Question by:julito
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by:smeebud
ID: 1748854
You must have 4dos.com or NDOS.com loaded in place of
command.com in config.sys.

Is that what you want. if more let me know.
Or you may reject this.
There are some neat Ndos apps and bat's and utilities at
http://www.bsoftware.com/cgi-bin/search3.cgi
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by:julito
ID: 1748855
If I add the line

      shell=c:\ndos.com /E:2048

to my config.sys the PC don't start WIN95, only boots to NDOS!.

However if I run WIN from the NDOS prompt WIN95 starts OK.

This is my config.sys for your reference:

      REM [Header]
      FILES=20
      BUFFERS=20
      DOS=HIGH,UMB
      REM [SCSI Controllers]  
      REM DEVICE=SCSI.SYS
      REM [CD-ROM Drive]      
      REM DEVICE=CDROM.SYS /D:OEMCD001
      REM [Display]  
      REM DEVICE=DISPLAY.SYS
      REM [Sound, MIDI, or Video Capture Card]        
      REM DEVICE=SOUND.SYS
      REM [Mouse]    
      REM DEVICE=MOUSE.SYS
      REM ------------------
      REM [Miscellaneous]    
      REM DEVICE=SMARTDRV.EXE
      device=c:\windows\COMMAND\display.sys con=(ega,,1)
      rem Country=054,850,c:\windows\COMMAND\country.sys
      device=c:\windows\COMMAND\ansi.sys
      REM shell=C:\ndos.com /E:2048

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by:smeebud
ID: 1748856
Tell me what it is that you want to happen when you boot.
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by:julito
ID: 1748857
What I want to happen is that WIN95 run normally, not the NDOS shell.

But I also want the NDOS shell be the DOS shell by default for WIN95, so everytime I run a DOS program this program is runned under NDOS.COM not COMMAND.COM

I hope this clarify/helps

Thanck for your reply



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by:smeebud
ID: 1748858
One more before i delve into this. Are you run OSR2 or what version?
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by:julito
ID: 1748859
Your request is a little confusing for me.
But sure I am not running OSR2.
This is a new PC that came with the option WIN95 or WIN3.x and now is WIN95 (WIN3.x was deleted).
The default output to MSDOS from WIN95 is just the Microsoft Soft Operating System or MSDOS and I want it be NDOS not MSDOS.


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by:smeebud
ID: 1748860
Got ya. It's just that OSR2 does not like norton at all.
A lot of tricks involved in doing what you want to do.
It will probably be tomorrow before I get back to you.
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by:julito
ID: 1748861
OK., I'll wait for your reply. Take your time, I'll open my e-mail next Monday.


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by:slp
ID: 1748862
I'd recommend getting the latest version of 4DOS for this purpose, as it's Win95 "aware" (e.g. understands long file names).  NDOS is essentially 4DOS several versions back.
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Ikon earned 0 total points
ID: 1748863
You could try this julito...
for every shortcut to a command prompt you replace the details "C:\command.com" with "C:\ndos.com" you can then run the games from there.
If you want to run a DOS program directly with a shortcut change the properties to the following eg.
"c:\ndos.com /cduke.exe" set the working directory to wherever "duke.exe" is located.
the /c switch means "run the following as a command".

If this isn't satisfactory the other option is to include "/cc:\windows\win.com" on the end of the "shell=c:\ndos.com" line in your config.sys
on the end
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by:smeebud
ID: 1748864
julito,
   Here's a place that you should most certainly know about.
NDOS dedicated.
http://www.jpsoft.com/techsup.htm
Brief excerpt:
-----------------
Support via the Internet

For technical support on the Internet, send electronic
mail to our tech support department at
(((support@jpsoft.com))) . Barring emergencies, we will respond
within one business day, and often
much more quickly than that.

You may also want to visit the JP Software newsgroup
(comp.os.msdos.4dos). This newsgroup in
not monitored by our staff and does not offer official
technical support. However it can be a useful
place to discuss questions about our products with other
users. The newsgroup is named for 4DOS,
but discussions include all JP Software products.

For updates, patches, and the latest versions of all JP
Software files, visit our FTP site. If you aren't
sure what file you need, check the file index in any
directory for a detailed listing of the files in that
directory.
--------------
My motto,
Give a man a fish and you've fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you have fed him for life.

lemme know how it goes.
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by:julito
ID: 1748865
The Ikon's answer solves the problem (that is just the way I  used from WIN95 instalation) but not reply exactly to my initial question: NDOS by default (not to change each shortcut).
 
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by:smeebud
ID: 1748866
julito,
  If you do visit the site I posted above and get a better solution please let me know. I'd like to see a better way.
I have a friend that boots to 6.22 dos so he can use SHARE.EXE,
Every expert said it could'nt be done. Then he can go into win95 without any conflict.
I think the probabilities are high that you could do something similar.

bwil@erinet.com
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by:julito
ID: 1748867
OK smeebud, I'll mail you when I find the "definitive solution"
or, at least, a new one
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