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Hello Mac Folks,
I am very very new at Mac, rather I don't use macs at all but at my clients site they have 1 Power PC 8500 and 4 P166 MMX PCs with win95.  
Using Microsoft Networking i have connected the 4 PC on thin coax Ethernet using NE2000 cards.  To connect the Mac i have used PC MacLan (single user Licence).

I want to use TCP/IP so that All PC can talk to Mac and eachother.  How?

In your answer please give the configuration and changes for both Mac and PCs.  Mac is using 7.5.5 or less (will that matter).

All the options like Chooser, Sharing, TCP/IP etc are present.

By the way in another Mac TCP/IP is not present in control pnl rather only tcp is present how do i bring up the tcp/ip

Thanks a million in advance.
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by:karl_s
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Try Dave from Thursby
http://www.thursby.com/

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Karl
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by:karl_s
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Apologies, i misread the question... the PCs can talk to the mac using software from miramarsystems http://www.miramarsys.com/
I hope this is what you were looking for...
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Macs do not support TCP/IP in the same way that PCs do..
What you are asking is the impossible..


BTW - MacTCP *is* equivalent to TCP/IP...
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by:dlleon
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Well, you can have the macs and peecees talking to one another over ethernet and you can have the macs and peecees sharing tcp/ip resources over ethernet, but as far as direct mac-peecee networking over tcp/ip there are no elegant solutions.

Assuming you have tcp/ip addresses set up on all machines, you can use the following scenarios (in order of least elegant to most):

1. There are freely available macintosh applications which will allow file sharing in the respect that you can copy files back and forth from macs to peecees. Programs such as NSCA Telnet (in ftp server mode) allow you to share mac files with a peecee running an ftp client. Additionally, Netpresentz (shareware) for the mac will host html.

2. If you have MacOS8, then you can use the built-in ability to host html via the Web services control panel (and share files via the web services). Again these are inelegant in the fact that they do not use the Chooser or Network Neighborhood.

3. Farallon's Timbuktu software allows sharing of files (and screens) over tcp/ip. You will have to purchase one copy per network node. Additionally, there are mac and peecee versions. This software has its own server client features, snappy trasfer rates and supports both IP/IPX and TCP/IP. As an added plus, you can remotely control any computer (be it mac or peecee) from any other computer (assuming you have set privs. to do so). This program is incredibly robust and astonishingly easy to use. You can even use it to perform transfers/controls to remote sites either through tcp/ip or direct dial (modem-to-modem).

4. Probably, the better alternative is to leave all machines on the e-net (with their tcp/ip addresses intact) and use an additional protocol for sharing files and printers. You can still use tcp/ip services (such as Timbuktu, routerd or proxy servers) over tcp/ip on all machines, and just use Appletalk over ethernet to share files. As someone mentioned before, Miramar's PC MacLan 6.1 adds an appletalk networking stack to your win95 machine. With this installed, you can share peecee hard drives, cd roms and printers via the macintosh chooser. Conversely, you can share mac hard drives, cds and printers via Network Neighborhood. TCP/IP and Appletalk can run concurrently without problems. As an added bonus, PC Maclan will allow a peecee to host printer spoolers for connected macs.

I think the latter suggestions offers you the most ease of use and functionality. It is more intuitive to use Chooser and NetNeighborhood to share files and such, not to mention the added ability to have cross platform printing options. Although you need to run two networking protocols on each machine, the network performance does not suffer all that much on a standard 10bt connection.

Good luck!

Dave
dlleon@leonhosmer.com
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