BAD or NO DOS under 98
Posted on 1998-07-25
Win98 and Bad DOS.
I recently upgraded 95 to 98. As advertised the installation WAS pretty much seamless. Right off the bat it fixed a number of little things, and seemed at first blush, be doing everything I could ask of it as well or better with little or no learning or tweaking. Even Quake II was happy but I still don’t think I’m getting the full "Open GL" effect, (but thats another thing) . Suddenly I began to take notice of something.
Symptom # 1] It wasn’t shutting down all the way. It seems to be halting JUST before the "It’s Now Safe To Turn Off…." Display. I don’t get that, ever. Usually what I get is a super-darkened version of my wallpaper, and a lockup.
At first I thought nothing of it (wrong!), restarts afterwards were always fine. All settings and changes always intact. Never a "Safe Mode" or default-to-Scandisk start, (from this). In addition Re-starts from the Shut-down menu were working perfectly as well…
Symptom # 2. The first time I needed DOS, I went to a DOS window. Failure. I’d used a DOSprompt shortcut left over from 95 and had to GO FIND the "new" one… girrrr… So I find it, It feels not right but it comes up. In a WINDOW. I take my DOS strictly FULL SCREEN thank you!. So I hit the Maximize. Black-Out. Lock Up. Re-start. OK. Repeat previous. No Change. Sometimes the DOS prompt couldn’t be summoned AT ALL. Naturally this made me suspicious. "WHAT ABOUT MY So-Called-"REAL" DOS?"
You know, the "Shut Down to a DOS prompt" Shut Down menu option?
Sympton # 3. No DOS. The "Shut Down To A DOS Prompt" option results in a black screen no mouse lock up. Everytime. Once again in re-starting Windows don’t see any thing wrong and (appears to be) restarts normally.
OK now it is no longer an ignorable problem. I COULD get real DOS by booting from a floppy, or doing "f8" boot-stop and selecting DOS. But that’s not all.
One other thing. I’ve noticed a marked increase in the (system) tendency to lockup during setup or config changes.
Clues. The system had loaded and properly updated/upgraded versions of Norton Utilities V3.04 (or 5) (Upgraded to v3.06 AFTER the 98 was installed). Also Norton Antivirus 4.0. BUT it had been "turned off" a few weeks actually before… The Live Update (file) 06 for the norton did choke on 2 inconsequential looking files at the VERY end but otherwise seemed to fly about 99%.
NO antivirus stuff was running during the installation. However "Speed Start" and "crashgrard" I think WERE.
Fixes already Tried. RE-installed 98. This re-install was done under a regular harddrive boot to Win98.
I t changed nothing.
One fix I know will work but would prefer to avoid. I have 4 - 970mg partitions loaded with all kinds of goodies. All of which, converted neat-as-you-please, to FAT32. I REALLY DON’T want to change them back. I’m assuming that, removing the 98 completely and ‘reverting to’ (back to) win 95, will necessitate those drives giving up the FAT32. I’ve not doubt the process that includes "format c:" would fix all this.
But that would be too easy. Any MORON could figure that bad, (but workable) answer out. Besides I have my own reasons for not wanting to do it that way. No gentlemen, just like before, we’re going to fix this one going FORWARD, and we’re going to UNDERSTAND what we fixed when we’re finished.
SO OK? Who’s game?
I've only got 100 points on it right now but if things get meaty enough I could kick that up some....