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Howdy folks,

Any time I try to load a page in IE - whether on my hard drive or on the web, my entire system bogs right down.  Even just moving my mouse pointer across the screen takes forever, because it will only move about an eighth of an inch at a time.  This happens even when I set IE not to automatically load images.

I'm nearly positive that the problem lies with IE, but in case it's with Win98, I'm posting here.

When I checked IE's settings, I discovered that the amount of disk space set aside for temp. internet files is at 0%, and no matter how many times I change it, it goes back to 0.

I took a look through the registry to see if changing the amount of space allocated for tifs could be changed easily and I think I found the right key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main  ----->
Cache_Percent_of_Disk

the value right now is: "0a 00 00 00", which I'm assuming is the binary equivalent of 0%.

The problem is that I don't know how to write a binary "code" (or whatever it's called) that corresponds to anything.  It really doesn't matter to me how much space is set aside since I empty my temp folders on a regular basis, but I do need someone to tell me how to change that 0% - whether thru the registry or not.

I've got a Pentium 133, 32 megs RAM, 4.3 gig h/d partitioned in half, 420 meg h/d, Cirrus Logic 5446 PCI/2 meg video card.  SP1 for IE4 is installed.

Thanks in advance,

Steve
"Pot8oHead"
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hI,

   Once in Regedit, open up that key and input a value data of:  04 00 00 00.  Check to see if you have document and/or image caching also.


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I changed the binary value for that one line, and while I was searching through, I found another key that might be significant:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Internet Settings\Cache\Content

one of the values is:

CacheLimit   0x0003d4c4(251076)

Is that setting the limit on my disk cache to about a 1/4 of a meg, or is this something else entirely?

I'll post again to say whether changing that one setting helps.  Thanks a ton.

Steve
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hi,

keep me posted.
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*sigh* changing the registry didn't help. :(  I also forgot to mention that where (in View\Internet Options\Temporary Internet Files\Settings) it's supposed to say the name of the folder I use for my TIF's, there's a blank.  I tried changing the folder to c:\temp, and I see in Explorer that those oddly-named folders are now present under c:\temp, but they haven't been used.
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I just noticed that this thing says my question is worth 12 points.  It was supposed to be 125, and yesterday that's what it said.  ???
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      You inadvertently accepted the proposed answer.
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That sucks.  I still don't know why it says it's only worth 12 points, though.  I didn't change anything.

Another thing I forgot to mention is that the only way I could change the location of my TIF folder was through the registry.  Going at it through the normal route wouldn't work.  I tried reinstalling `98 in the hopes that the problem would be fixed, but it wasn't.  Is there any way I can do a fresh install of IE to see if that works?

Thanks again.
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Hi,

    IE 4.0 is integrated with windows 98.  When you do a reinstall of 98, you are essentially doing a reinstall of IE4.  I have seen a lot of IE4 problems, and unfortunately, there is no easy way to fix that browser.  Go to this url and read about what i had to say to another guy with IE4 problems:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/topics/comp/os-ms-windows/general/win98/Q.10069500

Since there are two problems about IE4, i will look into it some more.  However, expect the worse when it comes to this browser.  Like i stated in the other message, i had to reformat my drive and reinstall IE4 fresh.

Keep me posted.
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That sucks.  I still don't know why it says it's only worth 12 points, though.  I didn't change anything.

Another thing I forgot to mention is that the only way I could change the location of my TIF folder was through the registry.  Going at it through the normal route wouldn't work.  I tried reinstalling `98 in the hopes that the problem would be fixed, but it wasn't.  Is there any way I can do a fresh install of IE to see if that works?

Thanks again.
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Hi,

    To really do a "fRESH" install, you must reformat your harddrive and reinstall windows98.  Cause when you reinstall Win98 over an existing installation, some of the files don't get replaced.  Tell me the specs on your computer.
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I've got a Pentium 133, 32 megs RAM, 4.3 gig h/d partitioned in half, 420 meg h/d, Cirrus Logic 5446 PCI/2 meg video card.  Gravis Ultrasound Max soundcard.

I'm not sure if you need to know more than that.  I may just go ahead and do the format & reinstall.  I can't keep dealing with this.  I tried downloading IE5, but it kept stopping at 7195 kb and wouldn't go beyond that no matter how many times I retried or what servers I used.  I'm not terribly disappointed, considering it's still a beta and I'd likely find every bug it has all by myself. :)  (P.S. Don't know why some of my messages appear twice; I only hit "Submit" once)

Steve

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Steve,

   Your computer should be able to handle 98.  I think your browser has gone haywire.  Don't feel bad, i have been there too.  I had to reformat my partition and reinstall everything because of IE4.  Did you know you can get viruses now by just VIEWING web pages?  That is what happened to me.  Hope you have better luck with the new installation.
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Just by viewing web pages??? Sheesh!  I was wondering if I did get a virus somewhere, but Norton AV didn't detect any when I did a full scan.  Now that I think about it though, one of the first problems I had after installing 98 was, after having Norton AV installed for a few days, when I booted up, I'd get a message saying that the auto-detect (can't remember exactly what it was called) couldn't be loaded, but there was never a reason given.  Finally, I just disabled that option, which left my system vulnerable, but at least I didn't have to sit at the keyboard during boot-up just to hit the "Enter" key every time that message popped up.

I haven't got everything reinstalled yet, but so far IE is behaving itself.  I'm nearly positive that this was an IE-exclusive quirk (not necessarily because of a conflict with some other software), but I'll reinstall the rest of my stuff slowly to see how this beast behaves after each step.

Thanks for the help!!
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Pot,

   Yes, you can get viruses by just viewing webpages.  There are new technologies (java, scripts, and active X) that can wreck havoc on your computer/browser.  You are aware of the fact that you download things off the web everytime you view a page.  

To give you an example, access my webpage and click on the "check this out" link.  don't worry, just watch the show!

http://members.tripod.com/~Win98nNT/index.html
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Nifty!  Actually, I went to a site about a year ago and I noticed that in the lower left corner of the browser it showed a "Formatting drive C:" progress... I nearly had a heart attack, but then I remembered that win95 won't let you format the drive it's installed on.  Whether or not that can be worked around I don't know (I assume the answer is yes).

Hopefully as long as I keep Norton AV's virus definition stuff up to date I can avoid at least that part of things.  Trojan horses are... well, a horse of a different color. :)

Steve
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Steve,

     Yes, keep your v-scanner up and running.  Also, you can tell IE4  to not download these destructive programs (i.e. active x, etc.).  Just go into view/internet options/advanced.  Good luck.
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