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I know this is more concerned with database than with Delphi but as I'm using it in a delphi program here it goes:

I have one table with two non required fields which reference two other tables.
SELECT invoice.number, client.name, creditcard.description FROM invoice, client, creditcard
WHERE invoice.client=client.number AND invoice.ccard=creditcard.number

the problem is that I only get the rows which invoice.client and invoice.ccard are not null, and I want to get these ones too with an empty description or name fields from the ccard/client tables.

I've tried with a LEFT JOIN and I got those ones too, but ccard.description and client.name where not empty (as I want and it should be) but with wrong values.

Thanks in advance
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by:dotan
ID: 1361893
Why don't you assign a defult value to the fields like -1 or "UNKNOWN" and adjust you'r SQL ?????
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by:javiertb
ID: 1361894
I already thought about that but I don't want to have a default record in the tables creditcard and clients and also, I don't want these default values to apear in the dbgrid where I show the invoice number, client number, client name, creditcard number and credit card description.
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by:javiertb
ID: 1361895
I already thought about that but I don't want to have a default record in the tables creditcard and clients and also, I don't want these default values to apear in the dbgrid where I show the invoice number, client number, client name, creditcard number and credit card description.
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by:EmmDieh
ID: 1361896
Make sure that you don't save any unwanted values in the non
required fields. This may be the case if you do not initialize
all the parameters of an insert stored procedure.
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Your problem is a good example of the usefullness
of the STATE NULL of an SQL-Database (InterBase ?). If you
do not know the value of a field a NULL indicates this
state. If you put a default value in it's another issue..
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by:333
ID: 1361897
Hi,
try this:
  SELECT invoice.number, client.name, creditcard.description FROM invoice, client, creditcard
  WHERE nvl(invoice.client,0)=client.number AND nvl(invoice.ccard,0)=creditcard.number

Function NVL(e1,e2) returns e2, if e1 is NULL. So ,in this case, when invoice.client or invoice.ccard are NULL, the function returs 0 and not NULL. You can change 0 to what you need.
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by:javiertb
ID: 1361898
NVL function is not supported by the SQL in Delphi.
Right now, I'm not using Interbase, stored procedures and so on (in a future, maybe). I'm just using SQL to query a paradox table.

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by:vladika
ID: 1361899
As I understand from your description
you query ALL rows from client and credircard
(ccard.description and client.name not empty) and
only those rows from invoice that satisfy the join condition.

But you want quite the contrary:
query ALL rows from invoice and only those rows from client and creditcard
that satisfy the join condition.

Syntax depends on database which you use.
For example under Oracle I would write as
SELECT invoice.number, client.name, creditcard.description
FROM invoice, client, creditcard
WHERE invoice.client=client.number(+) AND invoice.ccard=creditcard.number(+)

I do not remember what "LEFT JOIN" means, but try "RIGHT JOIN"

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by:javiertb
ID: 1361900
I already tried RIGHT JOIN, but it's not what I'm looking for.
If I use RIGHT JOIN I get all the records from the right part of the expresion in this case client and ccard.
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by:333
ID: 1361901
Sorry, I have tested my code on Oracle DB only.
But this works with Paradox (if I understand your question):

SELECT invoice.number, client.name, creditcard.description FROM invoice, client, creditcard
         WHERE (invoice.client=client.number AND invoice.ccard=creditcard.number) OR (invoice.client is null OR invoice.ccard is null)
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by:vladika
ID: 1361902
Try it, I test it on Paradox tables

SELECT invoice.number, client.name, creditcard.description
FROM
  invoice LEFT JOIN client ON invoice.client=client.number
          LEFT JOIN creditcard ON invoice.ccard=creditcard.number

333,
Your query produce cartesian product.
(when invoice.client is null or invoice.ccard is null
query combine this row with EACH row from client and creditcard)

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by:vladika
ID: 1361903
Javiertb, Did you solve problem?

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by:javiertb
ID: 1361904
No, I still haven't solved the problem. The point is how can I avoid this cartesian product when client or ccard are NULL and getting an empty field instead?
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by:vladika
ID: 1361905
Are you try my comment?
SELECT invoice.number, client.name, creditcard.description
FROM
  invoice LEFT JOIN client ON invoice.client=client.number
          LEFT JOIN creditcard ON invoice.ccard=creditcard.number

I test it and it works.
client.name was empty when invoice.client was NULL and
creditcard.description was empty when invoice.ccard was NULL

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DPedrelli earned 200 total points
ID: 1361906
Ideally, you should avoid forcing the join type if possible.  That way your server should optimize the join, if you force the join type you loose that optimization.  I don't know what you are using for a backend so implementation may vary slightly (this is MSSQL Server) but basically this should do what you want.  To make ccard.description and client.name null, include a CASE clause in your select satement.
SELECT
"NAME" =
  CASE
  WHEN (invoice.client IS NULL) or (invoice.ccard IS NULL) THEN
    NULL
  ELSE
    client.name
  END,
"DESCRIPTION" =
  CASE
  WHEN (invoice.client IS NULL) or (invoice.ccard IS NULL) THEN
    NULL
  ELSE
    ccard.description
  END,
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FROM
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JOIN
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ON
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To allow all based on join condition or where invoice.client and/or invoice.ccard are NULL.
Try these for you ON clauses (or WHERE if you do it that way):
(invoice.client=client.number or invoice.client IS NULL) (invoice.ccard=creditcard.number or invoice.ccard IS NULL)
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