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I have just installed a Farallon Ethernet card on my Performa 6360 as I'm hooking up to cable.(Currently using AOl and Earthlink).Open Transport v1.1.1 is recommended. It is not installed on my computer.I believed it was at one time, but was told by a tech from either Earthlink or Aol to trash it.I downloaded Open Transport 1.1.2 "Net Install" yesterday but in the read me file I came across this;

For best results, you should install Open Transport 1.1.2
over Open Transport 1.1 or Open Transport 1.1.1, but not
over any beta version of Open Transport.

So I did more digging and found some OT "stuff" in my Mac Performa CD.(software install) under 1.)Hard disk files 2.)System folder files 3.)Extensions
Open Tpt AppleTalk Library
Open Tpt Internet Library
Open Transport Guide Additions
Open Transport Library
OpenTptAppleTalkLib
OpenTptInternetLib
OpenTransportLib

Do I need this also ?   Object SupportLib

Now to the question
Can I install these files unto my machine and if I can,how do I go about it.
Then should I install the downloaded version over it or just leave the org.one on.
I'm using 7.5.3

Sorry for this being so long but past experience makes it so
better as much info as possible.

Thanks
 
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This is one of the coolest places on the web.
Great idea,and thanks for being here.
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The files that you mentioned are all part of OpenTransport. The ObjectSupport Lib is used by several applications, but is not part of Opentransport. In addition to the files that you mentioned, please not that the Chooser, AppleTalk Control Panel and TCP/IP Control Panel also get upgraded.

When you run the OT_1.1.2_Installer, be sure that you have booted your machine with Extensons ON (you'll get an error message if you do not).

Extensions:
Open Tpt AppleTalk Library
Open Tpt Internet Library
Open Transport Guide Additions
Open Transport Library
OpenTptAppleTalkLib
OpenTptInternetLib
OpenTransportLib

Control Panels:
AppleTalk
TCP/IP

Apple Menu Items:
Chooser

*** the following files may get upgraded as well - I forget ***
Apple Built-In Ethernet
Apple Ethernet CS (comm slot ethernet [NIC] card)
Apple Ethernet CS II (comm slot2 ethernet card)
Apple Ethernet LC (NIC cards for LC computers)
Apple Ethernet NB (NIC cards for Nubus Macs)
Ethernet (Built-In)
EtherTalk Phase 2
File Sharing Extension
File Sharing Library
Network
*** I may have left some off the list - general rule of thumb ***
*** files used by AppleTalk or Ethernet might be upgraded ***

The "For best results" note by the installer is a bit of a programmers joke, since it will not upgrade anything without the OpenTransport_1.1.1 componants installed and turned ON.

You can drag the old OT_1.1.1 componants into their respective folders. If you get an error message stating that these files already exist, your computer is using Classic Networking and must be switched to use Open Transport. This can be done with a utility called "Network Software Selector," which is part of the MacOS and should be in your Apple Extras folder or on your system disk(s). If you have MacTCP installed in your Control Panels folder, you are using Classic Networking.

MacTCP and TCP/IP - one or the other becomes invisible depending on whether you are using Classic Networking or Open Transport. This applies to the entire set.

-good luck
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Thanks for the response,but I need more  precise instructions for how to do this. Sorry I¹m one of those computer dummies.

>The files that you mentioned are all part of OpenTransport. The
>ObjectSupport Lib is used by several applications, but is not part of
>Opentransport. In addition to the files that you mentioned, please not
>that the Chooser, AppleTalk Control Panel and TCP/IP Control Panel also
>get upgraded.

Do they get upgraded automatically when I install OT 1.1.2 or do I have to upgrade them Individually

>When you run the OT_1.1.2_Installer, be sure that you have booted your
>machine with Extensions ON (you'll get an error message if you do not).

Should I first install v1.1. (which is the version that is on my CD) ?
Or can I just install the v1.1.2 ?

>Extensions:
>Open Tpt AppleTalk Library
>Open Tpt Internet Library
>Open Transport Guide Additions
>Open Transport Library
>OpenTptAppleTalkLib
>OpenTptInternetLib
>OpenTransportLib
>Control Panels:
>AppleTalk
>TCP/IP
>Apple Menu Items:
>Chooser

What is this,and what am I suppose to do with this. Is this the extensions that I am to leave on ? I don¹t have these extensions in my machine. That¹s what I am trying to accomplish.

>*** files used by AppleTalk or Ethernet might be upgraded ***

If they don¹t get upgraded,does this mean they don¹t need it or is it something I will need to do.

>You can drag the old OT_1.1.1 components into their respective folders.

What are the respective folders ? And what is the correct procedure for doing this.I think I know but don¹t want any mistakes.

Thanks Hub

Jerry
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Do they get upgraded automatically when I install OT 1.1.2 or do I have to upgrade them Individually?

Automatically, as long as they are where they are supposed to be, Extensions Folder, etc.

Should I first install v1.1. (which is the version that is on my CD)? Or can I just install the v1.1.2 ?

You cannot upgrade to version 1.1.2 unless version 1.1.1 is present. You cannot upgrade to version 1.1.1 unless version 1.1 is present. So, I recommend that you reinstall version 1.1, upgrade to version 1.1.1 and then upgrade to version 1.1.2. After you have gone through this fiasco, save the completed System Folder in a Stuffit file so you do not have to go through it again if your system folder becomes corrupt.

What is this,and what am I suppose to do with this. Is this the extensions that I am to leave on? I don1t have these extensions in my machine. That's what I am trying to accomplish.

The response was based on the fact that you said in your original question that you found:
So I did more digging and found some OT "stuff" in my Mac Performa CD.(software install) under 1.)Hard disk files
    2.)System folder files 3.)Extensions
    Open Tpt AppleTalk Library
    Open Tpt Internet Library
    Open Transport Guide Additions
    Open Transport Library
    OpenTptAppleTalkLib
    OpenTptInternetLib
    OpenTransportLib

A reinstallation of OT can be done with the MacOS installer on you CD. Select "Custom install" and choose the OT package. whatever it installs are the only files that you need to make your machine happy. There are many that are not needed, but get installed anyway...installers are stupid.

What are the respective folders ? And what is the correct procedure for doing this.I think I know but don1t want any mistakes.

Extensions go in the Extensions folder, etc. You can find out if it is an extension by using "Get Info" or dragging the files onto the closed System Folder, which will produce a message that says something like, "Some of these items need to be placed in special places inside the System Folder." Click OK.
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