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Insufficient Extended Memory with TCP32b
Hi, I've download TCP32B from Microsoft. I'm using WFW3.11 with NetBeui no problem but when I installed the TCP protocol I get the error "Not enough extended memory available to run windows". I've got a 486 with 32Meg of Ram & a 4 Gig hard drive with a seperate hard drive controller. I've tried modifying settings for SMartDrv /double_buffer, EMM386 /NOEMS & HiMem.sys /EISA. It works fine with NetBeui but doesn't seem to have enough memory when using TCP/IP.
Any suggestions would be helpfull.
Thanks.
Any suggestions would be helpfull.
Thanks.
Cooler
Try stripping AUTOEXEC and CONFIG.SYS to a bare minimum and then run MEMMAKER to optimise conventional memory useage - you may even consider remming out SMARTDRIVE completely.
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Thanks for the comment. I've already tried this before posting. I've tried getting rid of everything, as well as adjusting the paramaters to the above mentioned memory managers... to no avail.
Are there any memory setting in the Win.ini or System.ini that could be causing this problem?
Are there any memory setting in the Win.ini or System.ini that could be causing this problem?
What does MEM say in the 'Free' column for 'Conventional' and 'Extended' when you get this?
What are your virtual memory settings?
Do you have multiple Winsocks in your path? TCP/IP-32 uses Wsock.386.
Could one of the TCP/IP-32 files have gotten corrupted? I assume you've probably reloaded it several times,but how about the original? And at reload,are you selecting 'overwrite existing'?
Do you also have Win32 on your system? If so,try upgading to the latest version.
As a second-to-last resort,try re-installing WFW3.11.Your current configuration should remain intact.
As a last resort,upgrade to Win95/98.It sounds like your hardware configuration will do a 'better than a sharp stick in the eye' job of running it.Don't know which 486 CPU you have,but even a -33 will do a fair job with 32MB and a 4GB newer/faster hard drive.The alternative may come down to picking through your system file by file,trying to match up version numbers,etc.
What are your virtual memory settings?
Do you have multiple Winsocks in your path? TCP/IP-32 uses Wsock.386.
Could one of the TCP/IP-32 files have gotten corrupted? I assume you've probably reloaded it several times,but how about the original? And at reload,are you selecting 'overwrite existing'?
Do you also have Win32 on your system? If so,try upgading to the latest version.
As a second-to-last resort,try re-installing WFW3.11.Your current configuration should remain intact.
As a last resort,upgrade to Win95/98.It sounds like your hardware configuration will do a 'better than a sharp stick in the eye' job of running it.Don't know which 486 CPU you have,but even a -33 will do a fair job with 32MB and a 4GB newer/faster hard drive.The alternative may come down to picking through your system file by file,trying to match up version numbers,etc.
POST your Net.cfg, Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files.
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My files are as follows:
(I've confirmed that they are very similar to machines that work)
Thanks for any advice...
CONFIG.SYS
--------------------------
DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\PLUGPLAY
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SY
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.E
DOS=HIGH,UMB
FILES=40
BUFFERS=20
LASTDRIVE=Q
STACKS=9,256
REM FCBS=4,0
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM /P /E:1024
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.S
DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\EIDE2300
DEVICE=C:\ACERPNP\ACERCP.S
AUTOEXEC.BAT
--------------------------
C:\WINDOWS\net start
C:\DRIVERS\MOUSE\MOUSE.EXE
PROMPT $p$g
PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS;
SET TEMP=C:\TEMP
SET LMOUSE=C:\DRIVERS\MOUSE
win
MEM RESULTS (With windows running with NO networking (win /n)
--------------------------
Modules using memory below 1 MB:
Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory
-------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
SYSTEM 18,557 (18K) 17,533 (17K) 1,024 (1K)
DWCFGMG 1,920 (2K) 1,920 (2K) 0 (0K)
HIMEM 1,168 (1K) 1,168 (1K) 0 (0K)
EMM386 3,120 (3K) 3,120 (3K) 0 (0K)
IFSHLP 3,872 (4K) 3,872 (4K) 0 (0K)
EIDE2300 6,944 (7K) 6,944 (7K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 3,696 (4K) 3,696 (4K) 0 (0K)
win386 49,872 (49K) 832 (1K) 49,040 (48K)
WIN 1,952 (2K) 1,952 (2K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 3,088 (3K) 3,088 (3K) 0 (0K)
MOUSE 27,600 (27K) 0 (0K) 27,600 (27K)
Free 607,040 (593K) 607,040 (593K) 0 (0K)
Memory Summary:
Type of Memory Total = Used + Free
---------------- ---------- ---------- ----------
Conventional 651,264 44,224 607,040
Upper 77,664 77,664 0
Press any key to continue . . .
Reserved 0 0 0
Extended (XMS) 32,428,192 31,379,616 1,048,576
---------------- ---------- ---------- ----------
Total memory 33,157,120 31,501,504 1,655,616
Total under 1 MB 728,928 121,888 607,040
Largest executable program size 607,024 (593K)
Largest free upper memory block 0 (0K)
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.
(I've confirmed that they are very similar to machines that work)
Thanks for any advice...
CONFIG.SYS
--------------------------
DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\PLUGPLAY
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SY
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.E
DOS=HIGH,UMB
FILES=40
BUFFERS=20
LASTDRIVE=Q
STACKS=9,256
REM FCBS=4,0
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM /P /E:1024
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.S
DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\EIDE2300
DEVICE=C:\ACERPNP\ACERCP.S
AUTOEXEC.BAT
--------------------------
C:\WINDOWS\net start
C:\DRIVERS\MOUSE\MOUSE.EXE
PROMPT $p$g
PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS;
SET TEMP=C:\TEMP
SET LMOUSE=C:\DRIVERS\MOUSE
win
MEM RESULTS (With windows running with NO networking (win /n)
--------------------------
Modules using memory below 1 MB:
Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory
-------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
SYSTEM 18,557 (18K) 17,533 (17K) 1,024 (1K)
DWCFGMG 1,920 (2K) 1,920 (2K) 0 (0K)
HIMEM 1,168 (1K) 1,168 (1K) 0 (0K)
EMM386 3,120 (3K) 3,120 (3K) 0 (0K)
IFSHLP 3,872 (4K) 3,872 (4K) 0 (0K)
EIDE2300 6,944 (7K) 6,944 (7K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 3,696 (4K) 3,696 (4K) 0 (0K)
win386 49,872 (49K) 832 (1K) 49,040 (48K)
WIN 1,952 (2K) 1,952 (2K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 3,088 (3K) 3,088 (3K) 0 (0K)
MOUSE 27,600 (27K) 0 (0K) 27,600 (27K)
Free 607,040 (593K) 607,040 (593K) 0 (0K)
Memory Summary:
Type of Memory Total = Used + Free
---------------- ---------- ---------- ----------
Conventional 651,264 44,224 607,040
Upper 77,664 77,664 0
Press any key to continue . . .
Reserved 0 0 0
Extended (XMS) 32,428,192 31,379,616 1,048,576
---------------- ---------- ---------- ----------
Total memory 33,157,120 31,501,504 1,655,616
Total under 1 MB 728,928 121,888 607,040
Largest executable program size 607,024 (593K)
Largest free upper memory block 0 (0K)
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.
If you're running Dosshell,disable the Task Swapper.