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Does Netscape 3.x handle tables inside of tables well?  I have a website that doesn't display well on netscape 3.x.  The URL is http://www.4guysfromrolla.com

The top row should have two buttons labelled "Home" and "Humor"  Those appear in Netscape 4.x and IE 4.x, but not in NN 3.x.  I am stumped.  Please help!!
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by:MasseyM
ID: 1838406
Just looked at your code... what a MESS!!! Her is where the problem lies... YOu do not close all of your <TR>, <TD>, and <TABLE> tags... This is a MUSt with Netscape or things will not display properly... I would recommend you go in and edit your HTML file by hand...
Arange your HTML something like this:

<TABLE>
   <TR>
      <TD>
         Your information
      </TD>
   </TR>
</TABLE>

Make it heirarchial...

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by:mitchell042997
ID: 1838407
Can you show me the exact lines of code which are the offending ones?  The entire site was constructed by hand using notepad and/or pico, no GUI tools.  Upon inspection, I could not find any nonmatching TD's, TR's or TABLE's.  If you can show me the exact case where I fail to match, you will receive the points...
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by:MasseyM
ID: 1838408
YOu have a TON of <BR> tags within most of the <TD> cells... Those should not be there... Also, when  you want to include a <TABLE> within a <TD> tag, make sure that is the ONLY thing in the <TD> </TD> tag pair... no other HTML formatting...

You have TOO many line to point out specific ones.
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by:mitchell042997
ID: 1838409
Here is the lines of code which are not displayed:

<TABLE width=100% cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0>
  <TR>
    <TD width=145 align=center valign=top>
      <img src="../images/logo_4dots.gif" height=100 width=122>
    </TD>

    <TD align=right width="*" colspan=3 hspace=0 valign=bottom>
/* NOT DISPLAYED HERE DOWN */
      <TABLE cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=right hspace=0 border=0 valign=bottom>
         <TR>
          <TD><a href="index.shtml"><img src="images/home_lit.gif" width=71 height=108                   border=0></a></TD>
          <TD><img src="images/bar1.gif" width=100 height=108></TD>
          <TD><a href="humor/index.shtml"><img src="images/humor.gif" width=73 height=108             border=0></a></TD>
          <TD><img src="images/bar2.gif" width=73 height=108></TD>
        </TR>
      </TABLE>
/* NOT DIPLAYED HERE UP */
    </TD>

    <TD width=128 align=right valign=bottom>
      <a href="linux/index.shtml"><img src="images/linux.gif" width=128 height=108       border=0></a>
    </TD>
  </TR>
.
and so on

It looks like valid code to me...
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by:MasseyM
ID: 1838410
The problem lies further down the page.
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by:Michel021497
ID: 1838411
Why not making one table from it?
All tables in the primairy table have only one row, you can make one row in the primairy table.

Maybe the problem lies in width="*", it doesn't look a valid code to me.
All other code looks fine.
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by:mitchell042997
ID: 1838412
The code is valid.  I found the problem on my own.  Netscape 3.x doesn't like the ALIGN property in the TABLE tag.  I took that out and now it works fine.
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by:RoadWarrior
ID: 1838413
*smiling* confirming,
on my NS 3.04 win 3.11wfwg
it looks great! *smile*
well done mitch.

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by:jamestthomas
ID: 1838414
please delete the question and you can be refunded your points
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by:mitchell042997
ID: 1838415
How do I delete the question?
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by:kafun
ID: 1838416
I know whats your problem, the NN3.x don't allow you put "Meta thags" so you will need delet it:
*** <META NAME="author" CONTENT="4 Guys From Rolla">
        <META NAME="description" CONTENT="4GuysFromRolla.com: Programming
Information and Source!">
        <META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="programming,asp,active server
pages,linux,javascript,vbscript,sql,visualbasic,c,code,source,perl,access,rolla,spoofs,jscript,web
technology,web,internet">***
 
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by:mitchell042997
ID: 1838417
Uh, no.  NN3 will allow meta tags.  I've already solved my problem.  NN3 doesn't like the ALIGN property in the TABLE tag.  Thanks for your answer, though.
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by:kafun
ID: 1838418
Why do you reject my answer? thats the problem man!
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by:mitchell042997
ID: 1838419
I swear to you, the page is viewable in NN3 now, and the meta tags are still there!  I had already found the problem.  Please read the comments before posting an answer.  The problem was with the TABLE tag having an ALIGN property in it.

(Also, the problem began BEFORE we put the META tags in, so it is 100% not the META tags.)
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mouatts earned 240 total points
ID: 1838420
kafun is sort of right netscape doesn't process the META tags. Neither does any other browser worth its salt.

The meta tag is processed by the web server when it parses the head section of the HTML so that it can output HTTP messages etc.

Now for the bad news ALIGN is a valid atribute of table in Netscape and any other decent browser. hspace and valign are not.

Also originally all attribute values were meant to be surrounded by double quotes. This restriction has been dropped but Netscape 3 occassional still throws a glitch if one is missed. Therefore it is good practive to use them. I would suggest in taking out the align you have changed something else as well.
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